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The Patriot Debate

December 4th, 2009 · 8 Comments

Tags: Privacy and Surveillance · Self Promotion



8 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Ben // Dec 6, 2009 at 2:22 pm

    You have to admit she has a point about homegrown radicalism.

  • 2 Julian Sanchez // Dec 6, 2009 at 6:46 pm

    Actual “homegrown radicals” are not subject to interception under the Lone Wolf provision, which does not apply to U.S. persons. Nor is that provision necessary to spy on them; terrorism is a crime that can be investigated perfectly adequately with a Title III warrant. And indeed, without an actual link to a foreign power, what we’re really talking about is a domestic national security investigation, for which full Fourth Amendment warrants are the appropriate tool. There are, to be sure, crazy and dangerous people of all sorts within the U.S., but we don’t need to invoke the foreign intel apparatus to deal with them.

  • 3 Ben // Dec 7, 2009 at 8:13 am

    Sorry, I was being immature and sarcastic. My comment was in reference to some of her own radical ideas.

  • 4 Julian Sanchez // Dec 7, 2009 at 10:33 am

    D’oh! My sarcasm detector must be out of alignment, sorry.

  • 5 will // Dec 8, 2009 at 11:15 pm

    Jena was woefully outclassed. It seemed she was just fear-mongering and repeating talking points without any actual analysis of said points.

  • 6 Scott // Dec 9, 2009 at 2:46 am

    I’m going to send this video to the LSAC as evidence that they need to shut down the law school at the University of Arkansas. Jena Baker McNeill on the proper role of government:

    “The government probably does keep secrets from us, and I think they would do it whether there was a Patriot Act or not. Ya know, I don’t know that I necessarily like it, but, you know what, I think the Patriot Act is a really great way for us to provide a framework… for us to have a national security framework.”

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  • 8 Rumah pondok cabe // Mar 9, 2018 at 2:45 am

    Jena was woefully outclassed The government probably does keep secrets from us, and I think they would do it whether there