I just want to get this out now so I can say “I told you so.” Since it involves spoilers, only continue below the fold if you’ve seen the season premiere of Battlestar (or don’t care about having it spoiled).
Ellen Tigh is not the “last” cylon. She’s just an aged version of Tricia Helfer’s “Six” model cylon. The tells are physical resemblance (compare Helfer and Kate Vernon, who plays Tigh) and their hypersexualized seductress personalities. The real last cylon will be revealed as Anastasia “Dee” Dualla, who shot herself at the end of the episode (uploading her consciousness back to a cylon resurrection ship point). The body in Kara Thrace’s crashed ship will turn out to be a Dee model—note the ring on her neck matches the one Dee places in her locker before shooting herself. (I should add I’m much less confident about this last bit.)
Update: I missed a few data points—the most obvious being the way Saul Tigh used to keep seeing Six morph into Ellen, suggesting some sort of link there. Also, note that Dee—one of the few characters based on someone from the original series to get her name changed in the process—is named “Anastasia,” from the Greek for “resurrection.” (The Six hiding on Pegasus chose a last name, “Inviere,” that means the same thing.)
Some problems with those theories raised in comments: Didn’t they destroy the cylon resurrection hub? I can think of a couple possibilities here, but the easy one is that if the humanoid cylons—or at least the Final Five—originate from Earth, it stands to reason that there might be a resurrection point on the planet somewhere. That might also explain Three’s decision to remain on the wasted planet.
The other problem, of course, is that Adama and Tigh have known Ellen for years—wouldn’t they have immediately recognized Six as her younger self? Tigh, who would be most intimately familiar with her, isn’t that big a problem, since it’s well established that cylons are often programmed with memory blocks designed to prevent them from realizing what they are. Indeed, his visions of the captured Six as Ellen could be a side effect of some sort of block that causes him to remember Ellen as always having appeared as she does now. Alternatively, and more generally, this gives us plenty of reasons to be skeptical of the accuracy of Saul’s flashback.
Adama is a little trickier, but maybe not entirely impossible to explain. The most familiar appearance of Six is the Capirca/Baltar’s Head version with platinum blonde hair. Now compare her with the Gina Inviere Six and Natalie Six. They’re all Tricia Helfer, of course, but they look pretty startlingly different. That may leave room enough for variation that Adama wouldn’t necessarily recognize the Ellen Tigh of a decade ago as a version of the Sixes he’s seen.
Update II: I may as well tack this on here, but with pretty clear evidence now that the humanoid Cylons long predate the Human/Cylon Wars that occurred some 60 years ago in continuity, I’ll bet that the 12 models of Cylon correspond to the human gods. We have—somewhat conspicuously—never actually been given a number for or exhaustive list of the human gods, but at least 10 have been named, and there were 12 Olympian gods in Greek myth, most of them sharing names with the human gods who’ve been identified.
45 responses so far ↓
1 Chuchundra // Jan 17, 2009 at 6:03 pm
Doubtful.
If Ellen Tigh were an “aged” six, Saul or Bill would have figured it out long ago. How could they not? They’ve known her for years and would have recognized Six as a ringer for young Ellen right off the bat.
I complain about BSG characters acting stupid to move the plot along, but this would be nearly unbelievable.
Dee’s ring and Kara’s rings are similar/identical because they’re both standard issue wedding rings. Both women got married post-exodus and it stands to reason that there would be limited selection of wedding bands on Galactica.
2 Anonymo // Jan 17, 2009 at 6:07 pm
The real last cylon will be revealed as Anastasia “Dee” Dualla, who shot herself at the end of the episode (uploading her consciousness back to a cylon resurrection ship).
I thought the resurrection hub was destroyed, rendering all resurrection ships useless. Did I get the wrong (quite plausible), or are you positing that there’s more to the resurrection story than we were told at that time (i.e., there is another “secret” resurrection hub somewhere — I’ve seen speculation that Earth itself serves this purpose)?
But other than that, I do like your theory a lot. We’ve already been given plenty of setup for the Ellen = 6, and Dee’s death is way too weird to explain with a simple “she was really upset about Earth”. So I’m assuming you have a good answer for my question above.
3 Noah Yetter // Jan 17, 2009 at 9:24 pm
For what it’s worth, the second paragraph did not, in fact, appear “under the fold”, at least not in Google Reader.
4 Franklin Harris // Jan 18, 2009 at 1:23 am
Um, no. Not buying any of that. The Six/Ellen link is most likely thematic, not literal; it foreshadows that Ellen is a Cylon, but not that she’s literally a Six.
Also, Dee and corpse-Kara had similar rings, but that wouldn’t explain why corpse-Kara was wearing a dogtag inscribed with “Kara Thrace.”
My theory: When Kara “died” and visited Earth, she actually traveled back in time, probably inadvertently setting off the nuclear exchange that destroyed Earth 2,000 years ago. (That’s why she is the harbinger of death, for destroying Earth, not the fleet.) The current Kara is a time anomaly, or from another timeline. Whenever a sci-fi series deals in prophecies and history repeating itself, there’s a 98% chance time travel will enter the equation at some point.
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6 Kent // Jan 18, 2009 at 3:56 pm
My theory?
The entire human race will be revealed to be Cylon.
The original human race on earth having been wiped out by the original Cylons long ago. The human pioneers who fled earth and established the colonies were non self-aware Cylons.
Resurrection ships and Resurrection hubs are only necessary to replicate the 12 immortal Cylon models. But the ordinary non-self aware Cylons just live ordinary lives and die like the ancient humans upon which they are modeled.
Kara, of course, is the 12th Cylon.
7 randyhate // Jan 18, 2009 at 3:57 pm
I thought that exact same thing (re: ellen and six).
I am not as convinced on your assertion of Dee being the final cylon.
I am not sure exactly who the final cylon is, but am fairly certain it is not kara. The way Leoben reacted to her when she told him the hybrid told her she was the harbinger of death leads me to believe that she is some sort of deity (the devil maybe) in the cylon religion.
8 Elio García // Jan 18, 2009 at 3:58 pm
Very clever, especially bringing Dualla’s name into it.
However, too clever for RDM, it seems. See this interview (contains some rather firm answers on questions that are still vaguely mysterious).
9 Jerome // Jan 18, 2009 at 4:05 pm
The interviews that the writers/producers/actors are doing don’t seem to fit with the predictions….
http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2009/01/final-fifth-cylon-ellen-tigh-battlestar-galactica-dualla-dee-.html
10 Lee // Jan 18, 2009 at 4:07 pm
When Starbuck opened the helmet of the crashed viper pilot you could clearly see strands of blond hair. Also I’m pretty sure that the dogtags with the ring said “K. Thrace”. So – not Dee.
11 John // Jan 18, 2009 at 4:09 pm
I’m willing to buy the Ellen/Six theory. The idea that it is Dee seems clearly wrong. Deanna said the fifth was not with the fleet. Why would she lie?
12 Yancey Ward // Jan 18, 2009 at 4:35 pm
I would be surprised and disappointed if Ellen is the last cylon model.
Dee is not the body in the downed fighter. The ring is irrelevant- Kara definitely recognized the body as herself.
That was not our Earth.
13 El Cid // Jan 18, 2009 at 4:36 pm
What Lee (#10) said.
14 Sam // Jan 18, 2009 at 4:39 pm
If Dee was the final cylon, why didn’t she hear the music along with the other four? She was on Galactica at the time after all.
Ellen can’t be the six because she’s like a foot shorter than six. That’d be hard to explain away.
Finally, when it comes to resurrection I think it’s a mistake to see the final five as the same as the first seven. If there were a bunch of blank bodies of Anders and Tigh and so on in the resurrection ship(s), wouldn’t the rest of the cylons have, you know, noticed?
15 Julian Sanchez // Jan 18, 2009 at 4:53 pm
Lee-
We’ve seen models of Six with black hair; they apparently have reached a level of technological sophistication that permits them to change hair color. But that is the aspect of the prediction I’m least sure about.
As for Three’s claim, technically she just reiterates “there are four in the fleet”—she doesn’t say anything either way about the fifth. But at this stage, is it really a problem to imagine her lying? She lies constantly. I can come up with several plausible reasons just off the top of my head.
Re: Interviews, I just don’t take anything there at face value; Moore and others have lied before to protect plot twists, to the point of circulating rumors that Katie Sackhoff was leaving the show because of personality clashes on the set.
As for humanity being cylon, I think we’ll discover something like that to have been the case. I also tend to suspect that the 12 cylons correspond to the human gods. Ten have been named, but no total number has been given, and in the Greek myth on which the series draws so heavily, there were 12 olympian gods.
16 Franklin Harris // Jan 18, 2009 at 5:36 pm
I think you’re over-thinking this: There are 12 Cylons because there are 12 human colonies, and there are 12 human colonies because there were 12 on the original BSG, and there were 12 on the original BSG because it was a Mormon thing.
Now that does open the possibility, now, of there being a 13th Cylon, possibly Kara. But since the 13th tribe turned out to be Cylon, what if, instead of a corresponding Cylon model, they have a resurrected human, i.e., Kara?
17 Yancey Ward // Jan 18, 2009 at 5:43 pm
Franklin,
I considered your theory myself, but the problem is this- the body found on “Earth” was recent while the destruction of the planet was 2 millenia ago. It doesn’t appear to me that Kara traveled through time, but rather through space. But I wouldn’t be surprised to find time travel showing up sometime before the end.
18 Eugene // Jan 18, 2009 at 5:58 pm
There is the plot point from season one where the Cylons experiment with Kara’s body- perhaps the “new” Kara was created and planted by the Cavil side of the fleet?
Why are the cylons blocked from learning about the final five?
Also, Ellen could still be on New Caprica…
19 ha // Jan 18, 2009 at 6:26 pm
Saul aged, because Bill Adama knew him over time–this suggests Cylons can age, making the Ellen/Six idea work. Except, I agree, Adama would have certainly recognized Six, as important as she has been, it would have occurred to him.
However, what is Adama is the fifth Cylon?
As suggested by the Two(?), Callum Rennie’s character… Leobin? Of course, he could have been lying, but it would have been a cheap lie. As a viewer, I’ve always been hoping he was telling the truth… that it would be either Bill or Lee Adama.
(Of course, for it to be Lee, you’d have to have some kinda bodysnatcher/skrull switcheroo, which I think we’ve undermined through the 12’s individual (presumably) counter-parts on Old Earth.)
My prediction–still gonna be Bill Adama.
20 djw // Jan 18, 2009 at 6:44 pm
I think this doesn’t do justice to the episode. There’s a perfectly compelling and quite straightforward explanation for Duwalla’s suicide; after years of optimism and dissapointment and two ended/failed relationships, her greatest hope is dashed, and she can’t face going on.
To make it all part of a secret cylon double-fakeout etc would upset the thematic balance–to sacrifice the emotional, character-driven element of the show for the mythological.
Also, just getting the “who is the 5th” question out of the way and moving on to more interesting questions and directions seems like a pretty good idea to me. It’s pretty far from the most interesting question about what’s to come, and getting that revelation out of the way clears the way to get on with more interesting issues.
21 ha // Jan 18, 2009 at 6:52 pm
It isn’t Bill Adama… I’m wrong. Cuz, Bill remembers his father, Lawyer Adama–and so does Lee. It is an unworkable solution, unless both are Cylons, and both can’t be.
22 cleek // Jan 18, 2009 at 8:25 pm
it can’t be anyone who was in the Colonial fleet when D’Anna said that *four* of the final five were with the fleet (she said this last season) .
so, the final is either dead (Ellen), wasn’t with the fleet at the time (Starbuck was lost at the time, IIRC), or never was with the fleet (lives on Earth, still hanging out on one of the colonies), or isn’t a person.
23 Mark Bernstein // Jan 18, 2009 at 9:09 pm
I love the idea that Ellen is a six.
It’s not Dee. And Starbuck is Something Else. How about Zack Adama?
Elegant solution: there’s another model of resurrection hub somewhere around Earth. OR, these wars have been happening over and over again, and the resurrection machine is part of the repair lifeboat. (Note all the screentime given to President Roslyn’s new houseplant)
Inelegant solution: there’s a time travel angle in here somewhere.
Weird biblical solution: “the trumpet shall sound…. and we shall be changed”. It was a new age. It was the end of history….
24 Robert // Jan 18, 2009 at 9:45 pm
My theory is that there’s some kind of Cylon computer or installation still active on Earth. It created a wormhole/portal/whathaveyou for Starbuck to return to earth, but she crashed when she arrived – perhaps intentionally by the machine. The machine rebuilt her as a copy and sent her back to lure more…victims? Recolonists? Who knows.
25 John // Jan 18, 2009 at 10:00 pm
I’d suggest the Cylons on the nuked earth (including the final 5) were somewhat different, more “human” than the 7 models in the present. In the 2,000 years ago flashbacks, there were more of them, many different ages, & children, not a bunch of copies.
This would tend to discount the Six as Ellen hypothesis. It’s not clear the 7 current-model Cylons *originate* with the older Cylon race. (Doesn’t Eric Stolz invent them in the “Caprica” series?)
One possible implication of Starbuck’s discovery is that some technology exists on the nuked earth that can resurrect people/machines. Not necessarily just cylons.
It’s also implied that 2,000 years ago the humans (the 12 tribes) nuked the Cylons (the 13th). So that when the Cylons come back and nuke the humans, there is a certain cosmic payback.
26 jb // Jan 18, 2009 at 10:10 pm
First, I agree with the other commentary that Dee’s suicide is legitimate, and artistically effective – I would expect that there would be a lot of suicides in the fleet after such a big letdown. Dee’s suicide connects the tragedy of this for the audience.
Also, I don’t think Kara is a Cylon. She’s something else. Side note – when Kara said “If that’s Kara Thrace, then who the frak am I?” – did anyone else expect a large-scale explosion?
anyways, I think Ellen as the 5th is ok. I like the way it’s a “throwaway”, and now we get to move on to the big issues:
1. How the heck are the Earth Cylons, the Kobol humans, the Colonials and the Colonial Cylons all connected? Because right now, the whole thing makes zero sense – too many coincidences for it to “just happen”. I mean:
a) The Colonial Cylons (#1-#8 [minus #7]) “know” there are 12 models, but they represent only 7 of them. Why? Who told them? How do they find this acceptable?
Which suggests:
2. There is some shadowy third party in all of this. Someone with near-magically advanced technology resurrected Kara, arranged for the reincarnation of some of the Earth Cylons, set up the Bob Dylan “wakeup signal”, arranged for the creation of the 1-8 [minus #7] models with exactly the same bone structure as the Earth Cylons, set up the human prophecies to send them to Kobol and Earth, taught the Colonial Cylons about the concept of 12 models.
This advanced third party might also be responsible for “Head Baltar” and “Head Six”
At the end of the day, I *hope* that this third party is trying to fix the overarching problem – the cycle of violence between Humans and Cylons. That they’re a bit Deus-Ex-Machina is frustrating, but I can’t come up with a an answer that explains everything well that doesn’t involve a god-like entity pulling strings.
27 big truck // Jan 19, 2009 at 12:53 am
I read half this. It’s absurd, sorry.
The silly final cylon trope — which was always of much more interest to bloggers than to most fans of the show — is over as of last episode. The ironic revelation that the final cylon was killed in the third season, and is thus almost irrelevant, was the writers’ way of saying they’re moving on to more interesting themes as they wrap up the last 9 episodes.
28 BruceMcF // Jan 19, 2009 at 12:59 am
The Kobol humans or their ancestors that bombed the Earth-Cylons in the last cycle around, so it was the Colonial-Cylons’ turn to bomb the Colonials this time and around and around it goes until someone finds a way to make it stop.
“Someone” who scanned Kara Thrace’s ship before it crashed on earth, reproduced her and it, sans the damage that led to the crash, and sent her back to bring the Colonials and the Cylons bouncing this way to confront the repeated cycle and break out of it.
And the stage setting is a Deus Ex Machina, but the final resolution will require a moral choice and a crucial choice by the participants.
29 Franklin Harris // Jan 19, 2009 at 4:17 am
Yancey wrote: “I considered your theory myself, but the problem is this- the body found on ‘Earth’ was recent while the destruction of the planet was 2 millenia ago. ”
True. But, then again, it doesn’t look like anything on Earth is buried in 2,000 years worth of sediment.
30 MNPundit // Jan 19, 2009 at 6:05 am
Ads running for next week show a Six/Tigh meaningful embrace so for now I am on board with the Tigh/Six connection. That said I though the dead Kara Thrace was shown to have blonde hair.
Plus I’d be disappointed if it was Dee cuz I never liked Dee!
31 Sandy // Jan 19, 2009 at 8:25 am
Note on the human gods: on Kobol, Six said that whatever the Lords of Kobol were, they weren’t human.
32 bartkid // Jan 19, 2009 at 11:23 am
Huh. And here I thought it was Kramer from Seinfeld all along. Go figure.
33 PurpleSlog // Jan 19, 2009 at 1:14 pm
What about “Boxy” being the 12th?
He was in the mini-series andfew episodes of S1.
Also, the SF channel “10 things to know…” show made a point of showing him,
34 efp // Jan 19, 2009 at 4:37 pm
I largely agree with jb (#26). I think the third party orchestrating the whole thing is the original(?) hybrid we met in Razor, who is also the Cylon god.
I think Kara is definitely some sort of clone they made from her ovary.
I have to wonder if they’re going to pull this all together convincingly. I’ve been disappointed to find the writers seem to be making it up as they go (like the choices of the final five), instead of having a coherent plan from the start.
I think BruceMcF (#28) is on the right track too… the “all of this has happened before…” theme. But…
Were the Cylons independently created twice? With the same style? And the skin-jobs with nearly identical DNA? Seems unlikely. The latter (Colonial) skin-job/hybrid models were (a) engineered by the Cylons themselves, and (b) are unable to reproduce. I’m guessing the Earth Cylons are able to reproduce and are thus unique, and Hera represents a new generation of that type. So what really distinguishes them from other organisms? They seem to have some ability to download, perhaps in special circumstances.
Supposing it is the Cylon god/hybrid that is orchestrating the whole thing, how did it learn of the Earth cylons, and bring some of them back? Perhaps it was not created by Colonial cylons at all, but is some sort of survivor that also covertly influenced the development of the Colonial cylons. If that’s the case, I bet it’s plan is to restore the self-reproducing Cylon population, and wipe out humanity.
35 matt // Jan 19, 2009 at 7:35 pm
The residents of earth 2000 years ago were “cylons” in name but were not machines, rather some sort of genetic/evolutionary relative of the “humans” of the 12 colonies.
The final 5 cylons are not “skinjobs” like the other 7 models, they are not machines, and they will not be downloaded onto a resurrection hub like the other 7. They are functionally human.
A major motif of the show has been “all of this has happened before, all of this will happen again”. The conflict between the Earthlings and their destroyers of 2k ago is a precursor to the conflict now.
I think that the final explanation of the show is going to be far simpler than most people above have theorized, and will be along the lines of what I outlined above: the final five are descandants of Earth, not machines. The “skinjob” models themselves are somehow a descendant of both the Colonial (robotic) Cylons and the human Cylons (cylons in name only) that occupied Earth.
This is one of the only explanations that does not require the show to jump into any laughable attempts at incorporating time travel, wormholes, etc.
36 RDE01 // Jan 19, 2009 at 7:51 pm
I don’t have all the answers, but they have not found Earth! When Kira saw Earth you saw Florida which is unmistakably our Earth. When the fleet arrived at this nuked plant we never saw any land mass we could make out. Not Earth!
As for Kira’s viper? Who know
The 5th – Pretty sure it’s Ellen
Dee- Wow, that was a powerful moment.
37 Brendan M. // Jan 20, 2009 at 5:45 am
Yeah, the dead Viper pilot is definitely not Dee. She had Starbuck’s dog tags and blonde hair, as noted above. The Ellen/Six theory is too convoluted even for BSG.
I always thought that they’d find Earth post-apocalyptic, although I wasn’t sure whether it’d be in a time-frame close to our own or in the distant past/future and I didn’t think it’d be colonized by Cylons. But with Starbuck subplot, I am leaning towards the super-advanced race of Cylons and/or humans/”gods” manipulating events with the intent to either assure the cycle continues and civilization survives or end the cycle. Anyone familiar with the original show will remember the extremely advanced humans with seemingly mystical powers in the bright white ships who secretly assisted the Colonials on their way. They were thought of as “angels” of a sort, but were just evolved humans. A version of them could be behind events in the new BSG. I don’t think we’ll be seeing Edward James Olmos moving coins with his mind like we did Lorne Green , but who knows? This would make more sense than the half-assed time travel/spatial anomaly Star Trek-thing that BSG has tried to avoid.
38 Toadmonster // Jan 20, 2009 at 2:58 pm
These ideas are mostly stupid, and akin to when people incorrectly guessed all of these ultra-dramatic endings for The Sopranos, revealing that they had watched almost a hundred hours of a show but absorbed no sense of its dramatic logic. Dee is not a cylon or a magic space fairy or whatever, she’s just dead – her death served a certain dramatic function and it’s a shame that people can’t take those moments for what they are instead of brutalizing everything the show does into some abstruse “who’s a cylon?” clue.
39 Gale // Jan 20, 2009 at 6:33 pm
I always thought that when Three said only four of the five Cylons were in the fleet, there was some sort of technicality implied–one was in the Resurrection ship with them. So either Adama, Helo, Laura, or Gaius Baltar would be the last.
I’m also on board with the Ellen/Six theory. Aging could be the theme to Ellen and Saul Tigh’s relationship. It doesn’t exclude the idea that older models of Cylons took some humans and copied their DNA to give themselves skins.
And I think Kara probably will kill all present humans in the show. (The writers seem to take joy in destroying everyone.) “Life” would go on in the form of skinjobs. Six and Tigh’s ability to have kids lessen the difference between humans and Cylons now, anyway. Cylons can’t resurrect anymore. And if you don’t tell those Cylon kids they’re Cylon, how else would they know they weren’t human?
40 Kiril // Jan 21, 2009 at 5:18 pm
My guess:
Two thousand years ago, Earth was advanced enough to send colonists into space. These colonists founded the 12 colonies. Back on Earth, technology had progressed to the point where humans who died could have their consciousnesses translated digitally into artificial bodies, sort of a more advanced version of cryogenics people who have themselves frozen at death. There was some kind of ongoing war on Earth. Soldiers for the warring parties used this technology to keep fighting, which gets you Cylon bodies in war armor, which look like Centurions. Finally, the war on Earth went nuclear, killing everyone. For some reason, only five Earthlings managed to get downloaded to new bodies. These five go off in search of the colonials. The only way for just five people to make the trip was with the assistance of an artificial intelligence, which made the other seven, newer model Cylons. How the final five got integrated with the humans and the seven ended up somewhere else with their mythology is not too difficult to explain from this starting point.
41 Eric R // Jan 29, 2009 at 8:50 pm
How about this theory with no time travel involved and consistent with the colonial scrolls:
Ages ago humans leave Kobol. The ones we know create the 12 colonies and build toaster cylons which rebel and stop fighting colonials around 40 years ago as shown in young Adama’s flashbacks in Razor.
The 13th tribe of humans built their own cylons, but more advanced, aging, human-like with reproductive and downloadable capabilities which somehow take over Earth.
Somehow 2,000 years ago Earth gets nuked and only 5 special cylons escape and go search for the colonials leaving clues through the galaxy (the temple of 5, maybe earth’s location in kobol, etc). They find their cylon brothers 40 years ago and tell them to stop fighting the colonials and they build 7 models of cylon-humans (skin jobs) with programming not to seek the final 5 while they go live among the colonials.
Finally the new cylons nuke the colonies fulfilling “everything has happened before” and about Kara being the harbinger of death still remains to be seen.
I agree that Dee is just dead and that Six is copied from Ellen but still Ellen is an aging cylon and Six is not although at the intro of the episode this should be confirmed.
Baltar is a “special” human as well as Kara, Laura, etc (people with visions, telepathic connections stuff like that). And there are human and hybrid oracles which predict the future. This is the theme of the show.
42 Leslie // Feb 6, 2009 at 1:58 pm
Okay, I just thought of something and now I am completely confused. Kara and Sam didn’t have wedding rings, they got tatoos. So where did the ring on the body come from? Is it another Thrace altogether?
43 Arthur // Feb 19, 2009 at 7:54 pm
Okay, 12 colonies destroyedand Earth Destroyed. It has all happened before. After much drama the remaining Humans and Cylons will reach a truce and find a habitable planet to settle on. The new planet will be our Earth of the past. They will give up their technology due to the cylic nature of destruction caused by it.They will become our ancient Greeks,Romans, Egyptians, Mayans, Isrealites, Etc. May even settle Island Atlantis.
44 roberto // Mar 7, 2009 at 1:05 am
maybe kara is the harbinger of THE dead and brings all the resurrected characters that have died in the series
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