Comments on: Please Don’t Throw Me in the Briar Patch! http://www.juliansanchez.com/2010/02/10/please-dont-throw-me-in-the-briar-patch/ Just another geek in the geek kingdom Tue, 07 Sep 2010 21:48:39 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Barry http://www.juliansanchez.com/2010/02/10/please-dont-throw-me-in-the-briar-patch/comment-page-1/#comment-10659 Barry Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:04:27 +0000 http://www.juliansanchez.com/?p=3931#comment-10659 DivisionByZero "Uh, you are giving her way too much credit. Especially since she has repeated the teleprompter line about Obama over and over again. Even she is not dumb enough to pull out an index card when she criticizes him for using a teleprompter. They aren’t the same thing but the media would equate them for the media viewing public to mindlessly consume. Now she looks stupid and hypocritical. Keep it up, Sarah!" The criticism about using a teleprompter (ignoring the fact that (a) presidents and many public speakers use one, (b) that Obama has proven the ability to verbally wipe the floor with the combined GOP political leadership) is that somebody allegedly can't give a speech from memory. Using index cards or anything else is, in fact, basically the same thing. DivisionByZero

“Uh, you are giving her way too much credit. Especially since she has repeated the teleprompter line about Obama over and over again. Even she is not dumb enough to pull out an index card when she criticizes him for using a teleprompter. They aren’t the same thing but the media would equate them for the media viewing public to mindlessly consume. Now she looks stupid and hypocritical. Keep it up, Sarah!”

The criticism about using a teleprompter (ignoring the fact that (a) presidents and many public speakers use one, (b) that Obama has proven the ability to verbally wipe the floor with the combined GOP political leadership) is that somebody allegedly can’t give a speech from memory. Using index cards or anything else is, in fact, basically the same thing.

]]> By: Barry http://www.juliansanchez.com/2010/02/10/please-dont-throw-me-in-the-briar-patch/comment-page-1/#comment-10658 Barry Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:01:00 +0000 http://www.juliansanchez.com/?p=3931#comment-10658 "... for the same reason they treated Rush Limbaugh as the de facto leader of the Republican party a year ago: ..." I remember seeing a Rush back down a GOP rep and the chair of the RNC without any effort whatsoever. There certainly wasn't anybody else with that sort of clout (aside from large donors). “… for the same reason they treated Rush Limbaugh as the de facto leader of the Republican party a year ago: …”

I remember seeing a Rush back down a GOP rep and the chair of the RNC without any effort whatsoever.

There certainly wasn’t anybody else with that sort of clout (aside from large donors).

]]> By: mike farmer http://www.juliansanchez.com/2010/02/10/please-dont-throw-me-in-the-briar-patch/comment-page-1/#comment-10651 mike farmer Sat, 13 Feb 2010 01:33:05 +0000 http://www.juliansanchez.com/?p=3931#comment-10651 Yes, I just think the voters are going to be hypersensitive to political games, intrigue and smear campaigns, regardless of party affiliation, except for the most partisan lackeys, and that they will value and demand straightforwardness and honesty more than in the good old days when not much was expected of politicians. Yes, I just think the voters are going to be hypersensitive to political games, intrigue and smear campaigns, regardless of party affiliation, except for the most partisan lackeys, and that they will value and demand straightforwardness and honesty more than in the good old days when not much was expected of politicians.

]]> By: sam http://www.juliansanchez.com/2010/02/10/please-dont-throw-me-in-the-briar-patch/comment-page-1/#comment-10650 sam Fri, 12 Feb 2010 23:46:53 +0000 http://www.juliansanchez.com/?p=3931#comment-10650 "They trash her, in other words, because she isn’t a threat." Well, certainly not a threat to <i>them</i>. “They trash her, in other words, because she isn’t a threat.”

Well, certainly not a threat to them.

]]> By: Julian Sanchez http://www.juliansanchez.com/2010/02/10/please-dont-throw-me-in-the-briar-patch/comment-page-1/#comment-10649 Julian Sanchez Fri, 12 Feb 2010 20:26:30 +0000 http://www.juliansanchez.com/?p=3931#comment-10649 Re Mike's earlier comment, I think that goes to Frum's point. At one level, of course, it's just a self-feeding cycle: People find her absurd or irritating, and can't help piling on once she hits a certain level of exposure. The deeper answer is that Democrats would much rather treat Sarah Palin as the face of the enemy than, say, Mitt Romney. They trash her, in other words, because she isn't a threat. Re Mike’s earlier comment, I think that goes to Frum’s point. At one level, of course, it’s just a self-feeding cycle: People find her absurd or irritating, and can’t help piling on once she hits a certain level of exposure. The deeper answer is that Democrats would much rather treat Sarah Palin as the face of the enemy than, say, Mitt Romney. They trash her, in other words, because she isn’t a threat.

]]> By: NHCt http://www.juliansanchez.com/2010/02/10/please-dont-throw-me-in-the-briar-patch/comment-page-1/#comment-10648 NHCt Fri, 12 Feb 2010 18:48:53 +0000 http://www.juliansanchez.com/?p=3931#comment-10648 Julian, Have you seen the video of when she sneaks a peek at her hand? Not during the speech but the Q&A. When I actually saw that moment, a chill of recognition shot through me. She needed those notes. This was no ruse. And even if that moment wasn't conclusive for you, take in all that's been written about how horribly prepared she has been for interviews, debates, resignation speeches, etc. I won't go so far as to say she's not smart; maybe she just freezes in public when she doesn't have a speech to read (oh, the irony). But this was no attempt to draw the Dems into a trap. This is someone who I suspect knows she's overmatched even for the role she is playing now and is trying to hold it all together while the gravy is rolling in. Julian, Have you seen the video of when she sneaks a peek at her hand? Not during the speech but the Q&A. When I actually saw that moment, a chill of recognition shot through me. She needed those notes. This was no ruse. And even if that moment wasn’t conclusive for you, take in all that’s been written about how horribly prepared she has been for interviews, debates, resignation speeches, etc. I won’t go so far as to say she’s not smart; maybe she just freezes in public when she doesn’t have a speech to read (oh, the irony). But this was no attempt to draw the Dems into a trap. This is someone who I suspect knows she’s overmatched even for the role she is playing now and is trying to hold it all together while the gravy is rolling in.

]]> By: mike farmer http://www.juliansanchez.com/2010/02/10/please-dont-throw-me-in-the-briar-patch/comment-page-1/#comment-10647 mike farmer Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:09:40 +0000 http://www.juliansanchez.com/?p=3931#comment-10647 "Basically anything that looks like the median comment on RedState or Democratic Underground. " Understood. “Basically anything that looks like the median comment on RedState or Democratic Underground. ”

Understood.

]]> By: Julian Sanchez http://www.juliansanchez.com/2010/02/10/please-dont-throw-me-in-the-briar-patch/comment-page-1/#comment-10646 Julian Sanchez Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:45:19 +0000 http://www.juliansanchez.com/?p=3931#comment-10646 Sorry, my "hackishness" comment was vis a vis a post I, in fact, deleted. Basically anything that looks like the median comment on RedState or Democratic Underground. Sadly, I cannot just euthanize people who imagine they're being witty when they bust out moronic playground portmanteaus like "Obammunist" and "Rethuglican," but I will oblige them to butt out while grownups are talking. Sorry, my “hackishness” comment was vis a vis a post I, in fact, deleted. Basically anything that looks like the median comment on RedState or Democratic Underground. Sadly, I cannot just euthanize people who imagine they’re being witty when they bust out moronic playground portmanteaus like “Obammunist” and “Rethuglican,” but I will oblige them to butt out while grownups are talking.

]]> By: mike farmer http://www.juliansanchez.com/2010/02/10/please-dont-throw-me-in-the-briar-patch/comment-page-1/#comment-10645 mike farmer Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:16:41 +0000 http://www.juliansanchez.com/?p=3931#comment-10645 "She is extremely influential with respect to a large portion of this country, and has played a relevant, if not major role in terms of helping to shape our national discussion, including the inane ‘drill baby drill’ (among many other things)." I agree, but I was asking those who simultaneously say she has no influence and then trash her as if she's a threat, why not just ignore her if she isn't influential, as they claim. “She is extremely influential with respect to a large portion of this country, and has played a relevant, if not major role in terms of helping to shape our national discussion, including the inane ‘drill baby drill’ (among many other things).”

I agree, but I was asking those who simultaneously say she has no influence and then trash her as if she’s a threat, why not just ignore her if she isn’t influential, as they claim.

]]> By: sam http://www.juliansanchez.com/2010/02/10/please-dont-throw-me-in-the-briar-patch/comment-page-1/#comment-10644 sam Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:13:32 +0000 http://www.juliansanchez.com/?p=3931#comment-10644 Bracing for the inevitable merdestorm that would ensue, and continuing the Uncle Remus thing, I'd imagine one could write a story about a Democratic strategy involving Palin, Republicans, and a tar baby. Bracing for the inevitable merdestorm that would ensue, and continuing the Uncle Remus thing, I’d imagine one could write a story about a Democratic strategy involving Palin, Republicans, and a tar baby.

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