Comments on: The Redactor’s Dilemma http://www.juliansanchez.com/2009/12/08/the-redactors-dilemma/ Just another geek in the geek kingdom Tue, 07 Sep 2010 21:48:39 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: m65 http://www.juliansanchez.com/2009/12/08/the-redactors-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-10670 m65 Tue, 16 Feb 2010 10:50:39 +0000 http://www.juliansanchez.com/?p=3847#comment-10670 good read thanks for the share. i really like the way the article is written and also the design of the website good read thanks for the share. i really like the way the article is written and also the design of the website

]]> By: Douglas2 http://www.juliansanchez.com/2009/12/08/the-redactors-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-10272 Douglas2 Wed, 23 Dec 2009 03:25:25 +0000 http://www.juliansanchez.com/?p=3847#comment-10272 Perhaps they should declare death to all modifiers on one day, remove every adverb and every adjective the next. Then for another document they can have a war on articles. Perhaps they should declare death to all modifiers on one day, remove every adverb and every adjective the next. Then for another document they can have a war on articles.

]]> By: Belligerati http://www.juliansanchez.com/2009/12/08/the-redactors-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-10268 Belligerati Tue, 22 Dec 2009 15:54:18 +0000 http://www.juliansanchez.com/?p=3847#comment-10268 [...] Sanchez in The Redactor’s Dilemma make an interesting point about redacting information that I hadn’t considered, that how you [...] [...] Sanchez in The Redactor’s Dilemma make an interesting point about redacting information that I hadn’t considered, that how you [...]

]]> By: The Redactor’s Dilemma | Liberal Whoppers http://www.juliansanchez.com/2009/12/08/the-redactors-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-10265 The Redactor’s Dilemma | Liberal Whoppers Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:17:25 +0000 http://www.juliansanchez.com/?p=3847#comment-10265 [...] Sanchez recently offered up this very interesting post on ways to figure out what the redacted parts of released government documents may say — at least [...] [...] Sanchez recently offered up this very interesting post on ways to figure out what the redacted parts of released government documents may say — at least [...]

]]> By: TruePath http://www.juliansanchez.com/2009/12/08/the-redactors-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-10263 TruePath Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:13:59 +0000 http://www.juliansanchez.com/?p=3847#comment-10263 Your comment about the handoffs narrowing the region doesn't really make sense. After all the handoff is made based on the signal strength at the various cell sites, exactly what you already have access to, so a handoff shouldn't help to locate the cellular device any better than the signal strength info. --- Now true the agencies can't actually have someone randomly cut out extra passages to stymie this kind of analysis but they can do something which might be even more effective. Let total morons without real power or operational knowledge do the redaction so you have no idea if this is a significant redaction or simply something redacted because the redactor was confused or covering their ass on a subject they didn't understand. Your comment about the handoffs narrowing the region doesn’t really make sense.

After all the handoff is made based on the signal strength at the various cell sites, exactly what you already have access to, so a handoff shouldn’t help to locate the cellular device any better than the signal strength info.

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Now true the agencies can’t actually have someone randomly cut out extra passages to stymie this kind of analysis but they can do something which might be even more effective. Let total morons without real power or operational knowledge do the redaction so you have no idea if this is a significant redaction or simply something redacted because the redactor was confused or covering their ass on a subject they didn’t understand.

]]> By: The Volokh Conspiracy » Blog Archive » The Redactor’s Dilemma http://www.juliansanchez.com/2009/12/08/the-redactors-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-10259 The Volokh Conspiracy » Blog Archive » The Redactor’s Dilemma Tue, 22 Dec 2009 06:50:35 +0000 http://www.juliansanchez.com/?p=3847#comment-10259 [...] Sanchez recently offered up this very interesting post on ways to figure out what the redacted version of released government documents may say — at [...] [...] Sanchez recently offered up this very interesting post on ways to figure out what the redacted version of released government documents may say — at [...]

]]> By: Links 11/12/2009: French Military on Thunderbird | Boycott Novell http://www.juliansanchez.com/2009/12/08/the-redactors-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-10073 Links 11/12/2009: French Military on Thunderbird | Boycott Novell Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:14:26 +0000 http://www.juliansanchez.com/?p=3847#comment-10073 [...] The Redactor’s Dilemma What sort of jackass (I fumed) had concluded that the contents of American public laws were some kind of operational secret? But of course, once I got over my pique at this obnoxious excess of secrecy, I started thinking: Why, exactly were they worried about someone reading that? I had, perversely, just gained a bit of new information. Not the statutory definition—that was already sitting on my desk in yet another pile—but the fact that the investigative technique they’re taking pains to conceal (that’s what “b7e” means, it’s the code for the FOIA exemption they’re invoking) involved exploiting that part of the statute in some crucial way. [...] [...] The Redactor’s Dilemma What sort of jackass (I fumed) had concluded that the contents of American public laws were some kind of operational secret? But of course, once I got over my pique at this obnoxious excess of secrecy, I started thinking: Why, exactly were they worried about someone reading that? I had, perversely, just gained a bit of new information. Not the statutory definition—that was already sitting on my desk in yet another pile—but the fact that the investigative technique they’re taking pains to conceal (that’s what “b7e” means, it’s the code for the FOIA exemption they’re invoking) involved exploiting that part of the statute in some crucial way. [...]

]]> By: Ruling Imagination: Law and Creativity » Blog Archive » Interpreting, accurately, what isn’t there — the Redactor’s Dilemma http://www.juliansanchez.com/2009/12/08/the-redactors-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-10066 Ruling Imagination: Law and Creativity » Blog Archive » Interpreting, accurately, what isn’t there — the Redactor’s Dilemma Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:03:35 +0000 http://www.juliansanchez.com/?p=3847#comment-10066 [...] as telling as what we typically think of as “facts.” Julian Sanchez, in a post entitled The Redactor’s Dilemma, gives a brilliant demonstration of this truth. Sanchez has been “poring over the FOIA [...] [...] as telling as what we typically think of as “facts.” Julian Sanchez, in a post entitled The Redactor’s Dilemma, gives a brilliant demonstration of this truth. Sanchez has been “poring over the FOIA [...]

]]> By: Jacob Wintersmith http://www.juliansanchez.com/2009/12/08/the-redactors-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-10015 Jacob Wintersmith Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:47:05 +0000 http://www.juliansanchez.com/?p=3847#comment-10015 If I were a redactor, after I had cut out everything in a document I thought needed to remain secret, I'd make a second pass to redact a bunch of random passages. If I were a redactor, after I had cut out everything in a document I thought needed to remain secret, I’d make a second pass to redact a bunch of random passages.

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