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	<title>Comments on: Don&#8217;t Go Lawnmower Man Just Yet&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: m65</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2009/11/30/dont-go-lawnmower-man-just-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-10663</link>
		<dc:creator>m65</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 10:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good read thanks for the share. i really like the way the article is written and also the design of the website</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good read thanks for the share. i really like the way the article is written and also the design of the website</p>
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		<title>By: Cryogenics &#8211; Stonesoup Readers Say &#8211; Not Really Crazy &#171; stone soup</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2009/11/30/dont-go-lawnmower-man-just-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-10473</link>
		<dc:creator>Cryogenics &#8211; Stonesoup Readers Say &#8211; Not Really Crazy &#171; stone soup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 17:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of life, it might just be the creation of another person who is very very similar to me.  While the preservation of a version of oneself might be someone&#8217;s preference, even if they can&#8217;t experience it, that doesn&#8217;t particularly appeal to me; children [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of life, it might just be the creation of another person who is very very similar to me.  While the preservation of a version of oneself might be someone&#8217;s preference, even if they can&#8217;t experience it, that doesn&#8217;t particularly appeal to me; children [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Neel Krishnaswami</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2009/11/30/dont-go-lawnmower-man-just-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-9978</link>
		<dc:creator>Neel Krishnaswami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 10:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I suspect (and perhaps a mathematician can prove) that if a black box perfectly replicates a certain I/O behavior, then it necessarily has internal states isomorphic to the internal states of another box with identical I/O (say, a brain). &lt;/blockquote&gt;

In fact, this is not true. Systems that have identical IO behavior are only equivalent up to bisimilarity (ie, mathematician talk for &quot;have the same IO behavior&quot;), not to isomorphism. 

If you know a little about regular expressions, recall that the minimal DFA recognizing a regular expression doesn&#039;t have to be isomorphic to the an arbitrary DFA recognizing that expression (in fact, that&#039;s why there&#039;s any point to minimizing them).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I suspect (and perhaps a mathematician can prove) that if a black box perfectly replicates a certain I/O behavior, then it necessarily has internal states isomorphic to the internal states of another box with identical I/O (say, a brain). </p></blockquote>
<p>In fact, this is not true. Systems that have identical IO behavior are only equivalent up to bisimilarity (ie, mathematician talk for &#8220;have the same IO behavior&#8221;), not to isomorphism. </p>
<p>If you know a little about regular expressions, recall that the minimal DFA recognizing a regular expression doesn&#8217;t have to be isomorphic to the an arbitrary DFA recognizing that expression (in fact, that&#8217;s why there&#8217;s any point to minimizing them).</p>
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		<title>By: Weekend Readings - Ross Douthat Blog - NYTimes.com</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2009/11/30/dont-go-lawnmower-man-just-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-9943</link>
		<dc:creator>Weekend Readings - Ross Douthat Blog - NYTimes.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 00:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (See also Bryan Caplan versus Robin Hanson versus Caplan again, with interventions from Julian Sanchez and Will Wilson, on cryonics and personal [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] (See also Bryan Caplan versus Robin Hanson versus Caplan again, with interventions from Julian Sanchez and Will Wilson, on cryonics and personal [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Weekend Readings - Ross Douthat Blog - NYTimes.com</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2009/11/30/dont-go-lawnmower-man-just-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-9944</link>
		<dc:creator>Weekend Readings - Ross Douthat Blog - NYTimes.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 00:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (See also Bryan Caplan versus Robin Hanson versus Caplan again, with interventions from Julian Sanchez and Will Wilson, on cryonics and personal [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] (See also Bryan Caplan versus Robin Hanson versus Caplan again, with interventions from Julian Sanchez and Will Wilson, on cryonics and personal [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Winter&#8217;s Haven &#187; Who Knows?</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2009/11/30/dont-go-lawnmower-man-just-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-9905</link>
		<dc:creator>Winter&#8217;s Haven &#187; Who Knows?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 06:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in silicon, and personal identity. I suggest skimming the original two posts and then reading Julian Sanchez&#8217;s take on the question &#8212; he approaches the issue with more caution and more philosophical expertise than either [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in silicon, and personal identity. I suggest skimming the original two posts and then reading Julian Sanchez&#8217;s take on the question &#8212; he approaches the issue with more caution and more philosophical expertise than either [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Glen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 22:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the following video sums things up nicely:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdxucpPq6Lc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the following video sums things up nicely:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdxucpPq6Lc" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdxucpPq6Lc</a></p>
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		<title>By: Living Forever in a Computer &#171; Rortybomb</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2009/11/30/dont-go-lawnmower-man-just-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-9873</link>
		<dc:creator>Living Forever in a Computer &#171; Rortybomb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 13:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and Adam at Modeled Behavior respond, and so does Julian Sanchez: Suppose that via some kind of Star Trek replication or some combination of cloning, highly [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and Adam at Modeled Behavior respond, and so does Julian Sanchez: Suppose that via some kind of Star Trek replication or some combination of cloning, highly [...]</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 12:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a nice treatment of the issues raised here in John Scalzi&#039;s  &quot;Old Man&#039;s War&quot;. See Chapter 5.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a nice treatment of the issues raised here in John Scalzi&#8217;s  &#8220;Old Man&#8217;s War&#8221;. See Chapter 5.</p>
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		<title>By: The Elephant in the Room &#187; Postmodern Conservative &#124; A First Things Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2009/11/30/dont-go-lawnmower-man-just-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-9871</link>
		<dc:creator>The Elephant in the Room &#187; Postmodern Conservative &#124; A First Things Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 10:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] There I was, quietly chuckling over Bryan Caplan and Robin Hanson&#8217;s back and forth (and forth) on the reasonableness of cryonics, when somebody decided to bring Derek Parfit into things. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] There I was, quietly chuckling over Bryan Caplan and Robin Hanson&#8217;s back and forth (and forth) on the reasonableness of cryonics, when somebody decided to bring Derek Parfit into things. [...]</p>
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