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	<description>Just another geek in the geek kingdom</description>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2009/07/13/a-palin-thought-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-8400</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Our system of expertise is completely inside out: it rewards bad judgments over good ones.&quot;

That&#039;s only if one believes the justifications.  Think of the system as rewarding useful propaganda, and it works pretty well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Our system of expertise is completely inside out: it rewards bad judgments over good ones.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s only if one believes the justifications.  Think of the system as rewarding useful propaganda, and it works pretty well.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2009/07/13/a-palin-thought-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-8391</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You’d describe, in abstract terms, a potential political controversy or scandal—a program of warrantless wiretaps, an Argentine mistress, an abrupt resignation amid a flurry of ethics charges—

Or finding a brick of $100,000 in someone&#039;s freezer, or a bunch of lobbyists in the Cabinet or someone attempting to sell a Senate seat or, for that matter, someone driving off a bridge with his mistress and leaving her to drown.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You’d describe, in abstract terms, a potential political controversy or scandal—a program of warrantless wiretaps, an Argentine mistress, an abrupt resignation amid a flurry of ethics charges—</p>
<p>Or finding a brick of $100,000 in someone&#8217;s freezer, or a bunch of lobbyists in the Cabinet or someone attempting to sell a Senate seat or, for that matter, someone driving off a bridge with his mistress and leaving her to drown.</p>
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		<title>By: NadavT</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2009/07/13/a-palin-thought-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-8387</link>
		<dc:creator>NadavT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really like both the idea of a hypothetical registry and a predictions registry.  My own idea is to create a &quot;credibility registry&quot; that would consist of a short questionnaire with items including:

1. Provide three guiding principles that inform your judgments.

2. Describe a time when you learned something that caused you to change your mind.

3. Describe a time when you were right while other pundits were wrong.

4. Describe a time when you were wrong while other pundits were right.

And so on.  The point would be less to point out hypocrisy than it would to inform people about the ability of pundits to think critically about issues, rather than simply reacting with knee-jerk partisanship.  If Bill Kristol honestly thinks that he has never been wrong, it would be nice to have him state that officially.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like both the idea of a hypothetical registry and a predictions registry.  My own idea is to create a &#8220;credibility registry&#8221; that would consist of a short questionnaire with items including:</p>
<p>1. Provide three guiding principles that inform your judgments.</p>
<p>2. Describe a time when you learned something that caused you to change your mind.</p>
<p>3. Describe a time when you were right while other pundits were wrong.</p>
<p>4. Describe a time when you were wrong while other pundits were right.</p>
<p>And so on.  The point would be less to point out hypocrisy than it would to inform people about the ability of pundits to think critically about issues, rather than simply reacting with knee-jerk partisanship.  If Bill Kristol honestly thinks that he has never been wrong, it would be nice to have him state that officially.</p>
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		<title>By: Clint</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2009/07/13/a-palin-thought-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-8384</link>
		<dc:creator>Clint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;After a bout of initial confusion, at least some Palinistas have come around to the view that the Alaska governor’s resignation is actually a canny maverick move after all&quot;

Who knows what it is.  Applying basic reasoning to her actions yield little understanding.  I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if her resignation stemmed from a childing stubbornness -- the same kind that made her a bit of a maverick in her own campaign last year.

But who can tell with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.whyweworry.com/blog/2009/07/13/that-woman/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;That Woman&lt;/a&gt;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;After a bout of initial confusion, at least some Palinistas have come around to the view that the Alaska governor’s resignation is actually a canny maverick move after all&#8221;</p>
<p>Who knows what it is.  Applying basic reasoning to her actions yield little understanding.  I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if her resignation stemmed from a childing stubbornness &#8212; the same kind that made her a bit of a maverick in her own campaign last year.</p>
<p>But who can tell with <a href="http://www.whyweworry.com/blog/2009/07/13/that-woman/" rel="nofollow">That Woman</a>?</p>
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		<title>By: dsimon</title>
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		<dc:creator>dsimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A book on pundit accuracy came out a couple of years ago. Here&#039;s an excerpt from the review in The New Yorker. http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2005/12/05/051205crbo_books1?currentPage=1
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It is the somewhat gratifying lesson of Philip Tetlock’s new book, “Expert Political Judgment: How Good Is It? How Can We Know?” (Princeton; $35), that people who make prediction their business—people who appear as experts on television, get quoted in newspaper articles, advise governments and businesses, and participate in punditry roundtables—are no better than the rest of us. When they’re wrong, they’re rarely held accountable, and they rarely admit it, either. They insist that they were just off on timing, or blindsided by an improbable event, or almost right, or wrong for the right reasons. They have the same repertoire of self-justifications that everyone has, and are no more inclined than anyone else to revise their beliefs about the way the world works, or ought to work, just because they made a mistake. No one is paying you for your gratuitous opinions about other people, but the experts are being paid, and Tetlock claims that the better known and more frequently quoted they are, the less reliable their guesses about the future are likely to be. The accuracy of an expert’s predictions actually has an inverse relationship to his or her self-confidence, renown, and, beyond a certain point, depth of knowledge. People who follow current events by reading the papers and newsmagazines regularly can guess what is likely to happen about as accurately as the specialists whom the papers quote. Our system of expertise is completely inside out: it rewards bad judgments over good ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A book on pundit accuracy came out a couple of years ago. Here&#8217;s an excerpt from the review in The New Yorker. <a href="http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2005/12/05/051205crbo_books1?currentPage=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2005/12/05/051205crbo_books1?currentPage=1</a><br />
___________</p>
<p>It is the somewhat gratifying lesson of Philip Tetlock’s new book, “Expert Political Judgment: How Good Is It? How Can We Know?” (Princeton; $35), that people who make prediction their business—people who appear as experts on television, get quoted in newspaper articles, advise governments and businesses, and participate in punditry roundtables—are no better than the rest of us. When they’re wrong, they’re rarely held accountable, and they rarely admit it, either. They insist that they were just off on timing, or blindsided by an improbable event, or almost right, or wrong for the right reasons. They have the same repertoire of self-justifications that everyone has, and are no more inclined than anyone else to revise their beliefs about the way the world works, or ought to work, just because they made a mistake. No one is paying you for your gratuitous opinions about other people, but the experts are being paid, and Tetlock claims that the better known and more frequently quoted they are, the less reliable their guesses about the future are likely to be. The accuracy of an expert’s predictions actually has an inverse relationship to his or her self-confidence, renown, and, beyond a certain point, depth of knowledge. People who follow current events by reading the papers and newsmagazines regularly can guess what is likely to happen about as accurately as the specialists whom the papers quote. Our system of expertise is completely inside out: it rewards bad judgments over good ones.</p>
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		<title>By: Abby Kelleyite</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2009/07/13/a-palin-thought-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-8380</link>
		<dc:creator>Abby Kelleyite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you could blend the ideas of the predictions registry and hypotheticals registry by creating a futures market in pundit predictions. Right wing pundits should particularly like this market-based approach and nothing would keep them from investing in their own future positions save for the massive losses they might face if they do not live up to their predicted responses. What a wonderful way to internalize the external costs of bad punditry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you could blend the ideas of the predictions registry and hypotheticals registry by creating a futures market in pundit predictions. Right wing pundits should particularly like this market-based approach and nothing would keep them from investing in their own future positions save for the massive losses they might face if they do not live up to their predicted responses. What a wonderful way to internalize the external costs of bad punditry.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Anderson</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2009/07/13/a-palin-thought-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-8377</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 05:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.longbets.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.longbets.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.longbets.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chris Anderson</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2009/07/13/a-palin-thought-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-8376</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 05:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reference to the &#039;predictions registry&#039; - Longbets appears to put together a great site....and you get to put your money where your mind is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reference to the &#8216;predictions registry&#8217; &#8211; Longbets appears to put together a great site&#8230;.and you get to put your money where your mind is.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2009/07/13/a-palin-thought-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-8372</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 00:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s an interesting idea you&#039;re proposing.  In a somewhat similar vein, there&#039;s the website &lt;a href=&quot;http://wrongtomorrow.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wrong Tomorrow&lt;/a&gt;, which hasn&#039;t quite gotten traction yet.  It&#039;s also a little slanted towards tech news right now, but I think that&#039;s just a function of where it&#039;s been promoted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s an interesting idea you&#8217;re proposing.  In a somewhat similar vein, there&#8217;s the website <a href="http://wrongtomorrow.com/" rel="nofollow">Wrong Tomorrow</a>, which hasn&#8217;t quite gotten traction yet.  It&#8217;s also a little slanted towards tech news right now, but I think that&#8217;s just a function of where it&#8217;s been promoted.</p>
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		<title>By: DivisionByZero</title>
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		<dc:creator>DivisionByZero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 19:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d rather have someone that can spin both sides of the issue write-up the &quot;argument&quot; that will be inevitable, read it aloud, and ask the talking heads if they have anything to add?  It&#039;d be a short show.  It&#039;s embarrassing that I don&#039;t even need to read/watch/listen to the news anymore because I know exactly what both sides will say before they say it.  Obama and McCain occasionally surprise me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d rather have someone that can spin both sides of the issue write-up the &#8220;argument&#8221; that will be inevitable, read it aloud, and ask the talking heads if they have anything to add?  It&#8217;d be a short show.  It&#8217;s embarrassing that I don&#8217;t even need to read/watch/listen to the news anymore because I know exactly what both sides will say before they say it.  Obama and McCain occasionally surprise me.</p>
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