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		<title>By: Dave Lizewski</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2009/07/10/racism-you-know-for-kids/comment-page-1/#comment-14153</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Lizewski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 05:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Unless you’re talking about deluded White liberals who only experience “diversity” through the television screen, Randy, you won’t be seeing sane White parents taking their kids to a majority black pool anytime soon.&quot;

Many sane White parents do take their kids to majority black pools. While there are some &quot;limousine liberals&quot; who &quot;experience “diversity” through the television screen&quot; - there are real ones that have real diversity</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Unless you’re talking about deluded White liberals who only experience “diversity” through the television screen, Randy, you won’t be seeing sane White parents taking their kids to a majority black pool anytime soon.&#8221;</p>
<p>Many sane White parents do take their kids to majority black pools. While there are some &#8220;limousine liberals&#8221; who &#8220;experience “diversity” through the television screen&#8221; &#8211; there are real ones that have real diversity</p>
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		<title>By: sidereal</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2009/07/10/racism-you-know-for-kids/comment-page-1/#comment-8429</link>
		<dc:creator>sidereal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s awesome that people like Another Mike exist and are vocal, though thankfully in small number.  It&#039;s refreshing alternative to the sizable number of (primarily conservative) peeps who share his beliefs but are afraid to speak them.

Relentless capitalization of White is a nice little flourish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s awesome that people like Another Mike exist and are vocal, though thankfully in small number.  It&#8217;s refreshing alternative to the sizable number of (primarily conservative) peeps who share his beliefs but are afraid to speak them.</p>
<p>Relentless capitalization of White is a nice little flourish.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2009/07/10/racism-you-know-for-kids/comment-page-1/#comment-8401</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julian, time for a fumigation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julian, time for a fumigation.</p>
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		<title>By: Dom</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2009/07/10/racism-you-know-for-kids/comment-page-1/#comment-8381</link>
		<dc:creator>Dom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s take a test that was designed to be as fair as possible to all races.  Let&#039;s assume that only whites pass that test.  I’d bet one squazillion dollars that test will be shut down more quickly than this pool.  And I&#039;d bet another squazillion dollars that the idiot who did this will rise to the Supreme Court.

I wonder if Mother Jones ever called that decision a &quot;racist outrage&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s take a test that was designed to be as fair as possible to all races.  Let&#8217;s assume that only whites pass that test.  I’d bet one squazillion dollars that test will be shut down more quickly than this pool.  And I&#8217;d bet another squazillion dollars that the idiot who did this will rise to the Supreme Court.</p>
<p>I wonder if Mother Jones ever called that decision a &#8220;racist outrage&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Ator</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2009/07/10/racism-you-know-for-kids/comment-page-1/#comment-8379</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Ator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 06:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a former lifeguard that spent his summers watching children doggy paddle in the shallow end, I can say with certainty that black people can&#039;t swim and white people are just fat enough to float.

This probably all stems back to when the white man gave the black man rabbies as a means of improving the output of slaves as the natural aversion to water created an ever-fervent work force.  The gains created in economic development reverberated throughout society&#039;s timeline as the white man later came to understand the potential danger in crossing a rabid black man.  In modern times this plays out as historical minorities overtake the public sector and use of public services, cashing in on the dividends of  centuries of unnatural selection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a former lifeguard that spent his summers watching children doggy paddle in the shallow end, I can say with certainty that black people can&#8217;t swim and white people are just fat enough to float.</p>
<p>This probably all stems back to when the white man gave the black man rabbies as a means of improving the output of slaves as the natural aversion to water created an ever-fervent work force.  The gains created in economic development reverberated throughout society&#8217;s timeline as the white man later came to understand the potential danger in crossing a rabid black man.  In modern times this plays out as historical minorities overtake the public sector and use of public services, cashing in on the dividends of  centuries of unnatural selection.</p>
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		<title>By: Another Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2009/07/10/racism-you-know-for-kids/comment-page-1/#comment-8371</link>
		<dc:creator>Another Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 22:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Ethnocentric conservatism,&quot; as referenced by study author Putnam in the Globe article, is absent from the active US political scene. Neo-cons are multiculturalists as evidenced by their redefinition of America as a “proposition nation.” Observe the GOP&#039;s nonstop dance around the subject of race.

Jeremy speaks of “perceived behaviors.” Is one’s perception always faulty?

Given five decades of official and unofficial egalitarian propaganda, not to mention zealously burnished representations of AA&#039;s and other non-Whites in all media arenas, why are negative stereotypes of these groups so persistent?

If one is a long-term resident of a major American urban center, and honest to oneself, answering that question requires little reflection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Ethnocentric conservatism,&#8221; as referenced by study author Putnam in the Globe article, is absent from the active US political scene. Neo-cons are multiculturalists as evidenced by their redefinition of America as a “proposition nation.” Observe the GOP&#8217;s nonstop dance around the subject of race.</p>
<p>Jeremy speaks of “perceived behaviors.” Is one’s perception always faulty?</p>
<p>Given five decades of official and unofficial egalitarian propaganda, not to mention zealously burnished representations of AA&#8217;s and other non-Whites in all media arenas, why are negative stereotypes of these groups so persistent?</p>
<p>If one is a long-term resident of a major American urban center, and honest to oneself, answering that question requires little reflection.</p>
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		<title>By: You&#8217;ve Gotta Be Carefully Taught &#124; Xenia Institute</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2009/07/10/racism-you-know-for-kids/comment-page-1/#comment-8366</link>
		<dc:creator>You&#8217;ve Gotta Be Carefully Taught &#124; Xenia Institute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 18:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] outrage has given blogger Julian Sanchez a springboard to jump off in his argument against the myth that children aren..., or to put it in the language of Hollywood musicals: &#8220;You Gotta Be Carefully Taught.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] outrage has given blogger Julian Sanchez a springboard to jump off in his argument against the myth that children aren&#8230;, or to put it in the language of Hollywood musicals: &#8220;You Gotta Be Carefully Taught.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an interesting and thought-provoking post, though it should be noted that the children didn&#039;t just go on and hop out of the pool on their own; their parents and grandparents played a role in, erm, aiding their exit.

I&#039;d actually argue that the more damaging social science phenomenon going on here is not in-group affiliation and grouping but laissez-faire racism.  I wrote about it as applied to this incident a bit myself, but basically it&#039;s about attributing negative stereotypes to folks based on perceived behaviors, rather than sheer biology/skin pigment.

So, in large part at least, these kids&#039; parents and the Club management were working with stereotypes of black cultural/behavioral inferiority.

In a sense, this is our current &quot;pattern of default&quot; within the structure of race in America, but it calls for wholly different strategies to combat it than other learned behaviors/beliefs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an interesting and thought-provoking post, though it should be noted that the children didn&#8217;t just go on and hop out of the pool on their own; their parents and grandparents played a role in, erm, aiding their exit.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d actually argue that the more damaging social science phenomenon going on here is not in-group affiliation and grouping but laissez-faire racism.  I wrote about it as applied to this incident a bit myself, but basically it&#8217;s about attributing negative stereotypes to folks based on perceived behaviors, rather than sheer biology/skin pigment.</p>
<p>So, in large part at least, these kids&#8217; parents and the Club management were working with stereotypes of black cultural/behavioral inferiority.</p>
<p>In a sense, this is our current &#8220;pattern of default&#8221; within the structure of race in America, but it calls for wholly different strategies to combat it than other learned behaviors/beliefs.</p>
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		<title>By: Emily</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 05:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mmk.  That piece does dovetail quite a bit with this post, and does make sense.  There&#039;s still a lot that goes into making this particular kind of incident happen, though, a lot of give and take of innate and learned.  That said, I think the most important thing to take away is the focus on how to deal with these issues moving forward, which Julian addressed well. And from the article you cited, &quot;&#039;It would be unfortunate if a politically correct progressivism were to deny the reality of the challenge to social solidarity posed by diversity,&#039; [Putnam] writes in the new report. &#039;It would be equally unfortunate if an ahistorical and ethnocentric conservatism were to deny that addressing that challenge is both feasible and desirable.&#039;&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mmk.  That piece does dovetail quite a bit with this post, and does make sense.  There&#8217;s still a lot that goes into making this particular kind of incident happen, though, a lot of give and take of innate and learned.  That said, I think the most important thing to take away is the focus on how to deal with these issues moving forward, which Julian addressed well. And from the article you cited, &#8220;&#8216;It would be unfortunate if a politically correct progressivism were to deny the reality of the challenge to social solidarity posed by diversity,&#8217; [Putnam] writes in the new report. &#8216;It would be equally unfortunate if an ahistorical and ethnocentric conservatism were to deny that addressing that challenge is both feasible and desirable.&#8217;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Walker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 02:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terrific post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrific post.</p>
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