Comments on: Perils of pop philosophy

By: softwarevisualization

softwarevisualization — Sat, 14 May 2011 03:24:07 +0000

falconer:
Let em use fewer subordinate clauses just for you. Opponents of Searle are accidentally making a very strong claim. That claim is- “it is impossible for non-conscious entities to ever imitate conscious entities. ”

They are making this claim by asserting that Searle’s Chinese Room cannot ever happen.

Recall that the essence of the Chinese room is that an entity that does not understand Chinese but is just following rules is yet able to carry on in Chinese. To someone outside the room, Searle does a perfect job of “knowing Chinese”. Despite that fact that he doesn’t.

The point Searle is making is a non-conscious entity , a mere automatic rule follower, could seem to an observer to understand subject matter yet have no understanding at all.

What opponents of Searle are saying is- “no, that could never happen by any means either now or in the future.”

It is a very strong statement to say a thing could never happen. One wonders what proof they have of it. I am not aware of any, and they offer none.

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By: Andrew

Andrew — Tue, 09 Jun 2009 15:32:39 +0000

I’ll ditto Jeffrey’s comment. Ping me if you decide to do the magazine with a community of backers.

By: Chris S.

Chris S. — Mon, 08 Jun 2009 13:59:58 +0000

Julian Sanchez, have you seen any existing writing that approximates the genre you’re proposing? Or could you give an example of how such an article would address a specific topic? Examples would help get your case across.

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By: Jeffrey

Jeffrey — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 18:53:36 +0000

Julian: I’m not rich enough to bankroll a magazine, but I’d invest ~$10k in “Shrug”, especially if you got some respectable science and policy writers. Presumably you can get my email out of this post if you decide to do it.