Comments on: The First War? http://www.juliansanchez.com/2009/04/24/the-first-war/ Just another geek in the geek kingdom Mon, 15 Mar 2010 13:11:39 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Lisa http://www.juliansanchez.com/2009/04/24/the-first-war/comment-page-1/#comment-7258 Lisa Sun, 26 Apr 2009 18:01:11 +0000 http://www.juliansanchez.com/?p=3080#comment-7258 The mistake people make in analyzing how your average Joe thinks about torture is in believing it has something to do with whether or not you get accurate information or actionable information. They are angry and want revenge, and sorting out the few guilty Muslims from the billion plus innocent Muslums is irrelevant. For them torturing any Muslim in order to get their pound of flesh is an emotional need, and if ignoring the truth is the price they have to pay, so be it. In the same way that they are willing to ignore the fact that some innocent people are killed by enforcement of the death penalty, they are willing to ignore that America is giving terrorist recruitment a boost every time a Muslim is tortured. Their need for revenge blinds them to logic, reason, and the best interests of America. The mistake people make in analyzing how your average Joe thinks about torture is in believing it has something to do with whether or not you get accurate information or actionable information. They are angry and want revenge, and sorting out the few guilty Muslims from the billion plus innocent Muslums is irrelevant. For them torturing any Muslim in order to get their pound of flesh is an emotional need, and if ignoring the truth is the price they have to pay, so be it. In the same way that they are willing to ignore the fact that some innocent people are killed by enforcement of the death penalty, they are willing to ignore that America is giving terrorist recruitment a boost every time a Muslim is tortured. Their need for revenge blinds them to logic, reason, and the best interests of America.

]]> By: Quote of the Day - Torture Edition http://www.juliansanchez.com/2009/04/24/the-first-war/comment-page-1/#comment-7250 Quote of the Day - Torture Edition Sat, 25 Apr 2009 13:15:10 +0000 http://www.juliansanchez.com/?p=3080#comment-7250 [...] “[E]ven if we stipulate that torture had produced vital information in some particular instance when no other method would have worked—and it’s not remotely clear at this point that we should stipulate to any such thing—this is a wildly confused way to frame the question. Sooner or later, someone wins the lottery. For that person, it was certainly worth it to buy that lottery ticket. That’s not a helpful way to decide whether buying lottery tickets is a wise investment.” - Julian Sanchez [...] [...] “[E]ven if we stipulate that torture had produced vital information in some particular instance when no other method would have worked—and it’s not remotely clear at this point that we should stipulate to any such thing—this is a wildly confused way to frame the question. Sooner or later, someone wins the lottery. For that person, it was certainly worth it to buy that lottery ticket. That’s not a helpful way to decide whether buying lottery tickets is a wise investment.” – Julian Sanchez [...]

]]> By: Terry Steichen http://www.juliansanchez.com/2009/04/24/the-first-war/comment-page-1/#comment-7248 Terry Steichen Sat, 25 Apr 2009 02:56:58 +0000 http://www.juliansanchez.com/?p=3080#comment-7248 Excellent point. I've been researching this torture issue and this is the first time I've come across someone bringing up the historical angle. I like your blog. Keep up the good work. Excellent point. I’ve been researching this torture issue and this is the first time I’ve come across someone bringing up the historical angle.

I like your blog. Keep up the good work.

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