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	<description>Just another geek in the geek kingdom</description>
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		<title>By: Matt Schiavenza</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2009/03/01/joe-the-plumber-metapundit/comment-page-1/#comment-6959</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Schiavenza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 09:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, wasn&#039;t Joe&#039;s fame due simply to luck? Nothing he said was particularly noteworthy, but he happened to be present when Obama uttered a gaffe that the flailing McCain campaign pounced on. Had Obama phrased &quot;spread the wealth&quot; a little more carefully, I doubt anyone would have ever heard about Joe the Plumber.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, wasn&#8217;t Joe&#8217;s fame due simply to luck? Nothing he said was particularly noteworthy, but he happened to be present when Obama uttered a gaffe that the flailing McCain campaign pounced on. Had Obama phrased &#8220;spread the wealth&#8221; a little more carefully, I doubt anyone would have ever heard about Joe the Plumber.</p>
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		<title>By: Suddenly CPAC &#171; Around Teh Table</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2009/03/01/joe-the-plumber-metapundit/comment-page-1/#comment-6953</link>
		<dc:creator>Suddenly CPAC &#171; Around Teh Table</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 17:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Article:  A brief reflection from Julian Sanchez about the absurdity of Joe the Plumber&#8217;s continued [...]</description>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2009/03/01/joe-the-plumber-metapundit/comment-page-1/#comment-6942</link>
		<dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 21:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe is the reductio ad absurdum of the conservative &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.opendemocracy.net/article/jim_sleeper/tanenhaus_neo-conservatives_conservatism&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;new New Class&lt;/a&gt;. Country and Western Marxism &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/062703.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;out of control&lt;/a&gt;. Even &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newmajority.com/ShowScroll.aspx?ID=323a5b32-2405-4365-af87-49a36232ca63&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;David Frum knows this&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aei.org/publications/filter.all,pubID.27234/pub_detail.asp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;has for a while&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe is the reductio ad absurdum of the conservative <a href="http://www.opendemocracy.net/article/jim_sleeper/tanenhaus_neo-conservatives_conservatism" rel="nofollow">new New Class</a>. Country and Western Marxism <a href="http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/062703.php" rel="nofollow">out of control</a>. Even <a href="http://www.newmajority.com/ShowScroll.aspx?ID=323a5b32-2405-4365-af87-49a36232ca63" rel="nofollow">David Frum knows this</a>, and <a href="http://www.aei.org/publications/filter.all,pubID.27234/pub_detail.asp" rel="nofollow">has for a while</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe The Plumber and Cindy Sheehan</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2009/03/01/joe-the-plumber-metapundit/comment-page-1/#comment-6941</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe The Plumber and Cindy Sheehan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Julian Sanchez and Jesse Walker draw a great connection that would never have occurred to me:  Joe Wurzelbacker as the Republican Cindy Sheehan. They&#8217;re at odds as to the relation. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Julian Sanchez and Jesse Walker draw a great connection that would never have occurred to me:  Joe Wurzelbacker as the Republican Cindy Sheehan. They&#8217;re at odds as to the relation. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin B. O'Reilly</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2009/03/01/joe-the-plumber-metapundit/comment-page-1/#comment-6940</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin B. O'Reilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 08:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem, Jesse, is that Wurzelbacher didn&#039;t even represent the right mascot at the start. He *said* he might be hurt by Obama&#039;s planned tax increases on small businesses, but the reality was he was nowhere close to earning $250,000 himself and never gave any realistic sign he planned to buy out his employer or that his employer even brings in $250,000 in *profit* annually that would be hit by the higher marginal rate. It&#039;s not just that he&#039;s subsequently been pawned off as a subpar metapundit; his original burst of fame was due to his either misunderstanding or misrepresenting how Obama&#039;s tax plan would affect his average Joeness. None of the above, of course, should be taken as defense of Obama&#039;s planned tax increases, budget plan, the stimulus package, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem, Jesse, is that Wurzelbacher didn&#8217;t even represent the right mascot at the start. He *said* he might be hurt by Obama&#8217;s planned tax increases on small businesses, but the reality was he was nowhere close to earning $250,000 himself and never gave any realistic sign he planned to buy out his employer or that his employer even brings in $250,000 in *profit* annually that would be hit by the higher marginal rate. It&#8217;s not just that he&#8217;s subsequently been pawned off as a subpar metapundit; his original burst of fame was due to his either misunderstanding or misrepresenting how Obama&#8217;s tax plan would affect his average Joeness. None of the above, of course, should be taken as defense of Obama&#8217;s planned tax increases, budget plan, the stimulus package, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Julian</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2009/03/01/joe-the-plumber-metapundit/comment-page-1/#comment-6939</link>
		<dc:creator>Julian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 05:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>grr.   &quot;That there&#039;s&quot;  and &quot;The important thing&quot;  My apologies for such faulty proof-reading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>grr.   &#8220;That there&#8217;s&#8221;  and &#8220;The important thing&#8221;  My apologies for such faulty proof-reading.</p>
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		<title>By: Julian</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2009/03/01/joe-the-plumber-metapundit/comment-page-1/#comment-6938</link>
		<dc:creator>Julian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 05:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree that here&#039;s anything fundamentally new about his experience with the limelight.  Sometimes in the middle of a football game you hand the mascot a megaphone; does anyone really care what he says, or how he says it?  The important hing is that there is a person, a symbol, that represents the identity of the team and its supporters out there yelling, cartwheeling, bravely acting the fool to show you aren&#039;t out just yet.  That&#039;s what Joe the Plumber is; a Mascot showing that the Republican party still &quot;gets&quot; the common man.

Of course, having a mascot doesn&#039;t make the message true...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree that here&#8217;s anything fundamentally new about his experience with the limelight.  Sometimes in the middle of a football game you hand the mascot a megaphone; does anyone really care what he says, or how he says it?  The important hing is that there is a person, a symbol, that represents the identity of the team and its supporters out there yelling, cartwheeling, bravely acting the fool to show you aren&#8217;t out just yet.  That&#8217;s what Joe the Plumber is; a Mascot showing that the Republican party still &#8220;gets&#8221; the common man.</p>
<p>Of course, having a mascot doesn&#8217;t make the message true&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse Walker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesse Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 03:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not so sure that he&#039;s that different from Sheehan, who after a while was offering pronouncements on all sorts of topics unrelated to Iraq. (Venezuela, for example.) Indeed, for a couple months now I&#039;ve been thinking of JtP as the Cindy Sheehan of the right: Both evolved from sympathetic spontaneous grassroots voices into increasingly grotesque media figures, sinking deeper into self-parody the more they lost their original reason for speaking out and embraced their celebrity role.

In a perverse way, it reminds me of &lt;a href=&quot;http://jessewalker.blogspot.com/search?q=%22waiting+for+guffman%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the end of &lt;i&gt;Waiting for Guffman&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not so sure that he&#8217;s that different from Sheehan, who after a while was offering pronouncements on all sorts of topics unrelated to Iraq. (Venezuela, for example.) Indeed, for a couple months now I&#8217;ve been thinking of JtP as the Cindy Sheehan of the right: Both evolved from sympathetic spontaneous grassroots voices into increasingly grotesque media figures, sinking deeper into self-parody the more they lost their original reason for speaking out and embraced their celebrity role.</p>
<p>In a perverse way, it reminds me of <a href="http://jessewalker.blogspot.com/search?q=%22waiting+for+guffman%22" rel="nofollow">the end of <i>Waiting for Guffman</i></a>.</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2009-03-02 &#171; Ned Resnikoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2009-03-02 &#171; Ned Resnikoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 03:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Erstwhile</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erstwhile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 02:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole JtP thing turned to pure farce when they sent the dude to Gaza.  I mean, WTF?

The original premise--a real life &quot;forgotten man&quot; who just wanted to keep a little more of his paycheck and maybe get the chance to start his own business--was not a bad one.

And let&#039;s not forget the vicious and illegal assault that the media and government, respectively, immediately launched against him.  Although he is now remembered for touting entrepreneurialism and buffoonery, JtP&#039;s real symbolism may be as a posterboy for the need to be secure in one&#039;s personal data.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole JtP thing turned to pure farce when they sent the dude to Gaza.  I mean, WTF?</p>
<p>The original premise&#8211;a real life &#8220;forgotten man&#8221; who just wanted to keep a little more of his paycheck and maybe get the chance to start his own business&#8211;was not a bad one.</p>
<p>And let&#8217;s not forget the vicious and illegal assault that the media and government, respectively, immediately launched against him.  Although he is now remembered for touting entrepreneurialism and buffoonery, JtP&#8217;s real symbolism may be as a posterboy for the need to be secure in one&#8217;s personal data.</p>
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