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	<description>Just another geek in the geek kingdom</description>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2008/12/24/multimedia-dead-metaphors/comment-page-1/#comment-6735</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 01:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shoot, Julian - I was gonna use that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shoot, Julian &#8211; I was gonna use that.</p>
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		<title>By: Julian Sanchez</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2008/12/24/multimedia-dead-metaphors/comment-page-1/#comment-6697</link>
		<dc:creator>Julian Sanchez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 07:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sandy-
  I vaguely recall reading the observation a few years back -- I think it was in an interview with William Gibson -- that the iconic first line of Neuromancer (&quot;The sky above the port was the color of a television tuned to a dead channel&quot;) now gives totally the wrong impression, suggesting a rich, uniform blue rather than a mottled gray.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sandy-<br />
  I vaguely recall reading the observation a few years back &#8212; I think it was in an interview with William Gibson &#8212; that the iconic first line of Neuromancer (&#8220;The sky above the port was the color of a television tuned to a dead channel&#8221;) now gives totally the wrong impression, suggesting a rich, uniform blue rather than a mottled gray.</p>
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		<title>By: Glen</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2008/12/24/multimedia-dead-metaphors/comment-page-1/#comment-6695</link>
		<dc:creator>Glen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 05:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve noticed a lot of movies and TV shows (including the one I work for) using paper tickets for airplanes, despite the fact that pretty much everyone gets e-tickets now.  And it seems like I&#039;ve recently seen lovers accompany each other all the way to the gate for one person&#039;s departing flight, despite this having been impossible since 9/11.

Also, I&#039;m reminded of Joss Whedon&#039;s decision to insert old Western movie tropes into Firefly, including tropes that were a result of the film technology of the time -- such as oversaturated shots, light spots in the camera lens, brief loss of focus in action shots, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve noticed a lot of movies and TV shows (including the one I work for) using paper tickets for airplanes, despite the fact that pretty much everyone gets e-tickets now.  And it seems like I&#8217;ve recently seen lovers accompany each other all the way to the gate for one person&#8217;s departing flight, despite this having been impossible since 9/11.</p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;m reminded of Joss Whedon&#8217;s decision to insert old Western movie tropes into Firefly, including tropes that were a result of the film technology of the time &#8212; such as oversaturated shots, light spots in the camera lens, brief loss of focus in action shots, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2008/12/24/multimedia-dead-metaphors/comment-page-1/#comment-6689</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 23:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lots of &quot;turn off the TV&quot; visuals include either static or the picture shrinking down to a point before disappearing. Few modern TVs will display static, and if it isn&#039;t yet dead it soon will be. I&#039;m not sure the last time I saw a TV that will actually shrink down to a point when turning off...it has to be at least 10 years.

Similarly, lots of cell phones have simulations of two bells inside an old-style telephone being struck. I&#039;m positive many readers of this blog have never heard the original in person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of &#8220;turn off the TV&#8221; visuals include either static or the picture shrinking down to a point before disappearing. Few modern TVs will display static, and if it isn&#8217;t yet dead it soon will be. I&#8217;m not sure the last time I saw a TV that will actually shrink down to a point when turning off&#8230;it has to be at least 10 years.</p>
<p>Similarly, lots of cell phones have simulations of two bells inside an old-style telephone being struck. I&#8217;m positive many readers of this blog have never heard the original in person.</p>
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		<title>By: Erstwhile</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2008/12/24/multimedia-dead-metaphors/comment-page-1/#comment-6686</link>
		<dc:creator>Erstwhile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 19:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You appear to have used the word &quot;apt&quot; when you meant &quot;likely.&quot;

I&#039;ll probably never forgive you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You appear to have used the word &#8220;apt&#8221; when you meant &#8220;likely.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll probably never forgive you.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomorrow Museum &#187; Archive &#187; Merry Linkmas</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2008/12/24/multimedia-dead-metaphors/comment-page-1/#comment-6671</link>
		<dc:creator>Tomorrow Museum &#187; Archive &#187; Merry Linkmas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 01:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;Lazysphere&#8221; is winning as 1.9% of the 1.8M tweets used either the word retweet or RT, multimedia dead metaphors, designing through the recession, Erin&#8217;s podcasting again at Steady Diet of Film and posted [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;Lazysphere&#8221; is winning as 1.9% of the 1.8M tweets used either the word retweet or RT, multimedia dead metaphors, designing through the recession, Erin&#8217;s podcasting again at Steady Diet of Film and posted [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Emma Zahn</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2008/12/24/multimedia-dead-metaphors/comment-page-1/#comment-6668</link>
		<dc:creator>Emma Zahn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 22:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;how did they convey the stories upon which the metaphors were based? &lt;/i&gt;

Visually?  Just guessing but that is how I understood the metaphor &quot;jumpy as a cat on a hot tin roof&quot;.  I had actually seen one before I ever heard the expression.

&lt;i&gt;Don’t you need a conventional nouns-and-verbs first order language FIRST in order for these other terms to get invested with significance? &lt;/i&gt;

Not a linguist but aren&#039;t the terms in my example just simple natural language sensory descriptives.   

&lt;i&gt;If not and/or additionally, how did they talk about engine maintenance problems?&lt;/i&gt;

I may be betraying my demographic in this comment but I can tell you have never watched a bunch of guys tinker with an automobile engine for hours and hours and exchange fewer words among them than are in your original post.  I don&#039;t pretend to understand how they communicate, but somehow they do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>how did they convey the stories upon which the metaphors were based? </i></p>
<p>Visually?  Just guessing but that is how I understood the metaphor &#8220;jumpy as a cat on a hot tin roof&#8221;.  I had actually seen one before I ever heard the expression.</p>
<p><i>Don’t you need a conventional nouns-and-verbs first order language FIRST in order for these other terms to get invested with significance? </i></p>
<p>Not a linguist but aren&#8217;t the terms in my example just simple natural language sensory descriptives.   </p>
<p><i>If not and/or additionally, how did they talk about engine maintenance problems?</i></p>
<p>I may be betraying my demographic in this comment but I can tell you have never watched a bunch of guys tinker with an automobile engine for hours and hours and exchange fewer words among them than are in your original post.  I don&#8217;t pretend to understand how they communicate, but somehow they do.</p>
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		<title>By: Petey</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2008/12/24/multimedia-dead-metaphors/comment-page-1/#comment-6666</link>
		<dc:creator>Petey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 21:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Despite my fondness for the Merry Pranksters, my recollection is that the common use of “drink the Kool-Aid”, in the sense of ’subscribe to a group ideology’ didn’t gain prominence until after the Jonestown incident.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

According to Wikipedia, the phrase doesn&#039;t first appear as metaphor until 1987.

So both Kool-Aid drinking references were floating around together in the collective unconsciousness together for 9 years before it got crystalized into a meme that could show up in LexisNexis.

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&lt;i&gt;&quot;Consider undertaking a quick Google search before you “correct” people. It’s apt to spare you a good deal of embarrassment.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Basically disagree.  Anything short of you having actually written a Kesey biography wouldn&#039;t detract from the apropos  poesy of my comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Despite my fondness for the Merry Pranksters, my recollection is that the common use of “drink the Kool-Aid”, in the sense of ’subscribe to a group ideology’ didn’t gain prominence until after the Jonestown incident.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>According to Wikipedia, the phrase doesn&#8217;t first appear as metaphor until 1987.</p>
<p>So both Kool-Aid drinking references were floating around together in the collective unconsciousness together for 9 years before it got crystalized into a meme that could show up in LexisNexis.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Consider undertaking a quick Google search before you “correct” people. It’s apt to spare you a good deal of embarrassment.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Basically disagree.  Anything short of you having actually written a Kesey biography wouldn&#8217;t detract from the apropos  poesy of my comment.</p>
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		<title>By: biggerbox</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2008/12/24/multimedia-dead-metaphors/comment-page-1/#comment-6665</link>
		<dc:creator>biggerbox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 21:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Despite my fondness for the Merry Pranksters, my recollection is that the common use of &quot;drink the Kool-Aid&quot;, in the sense of &#039;subscribe to a group ideology&#039; didn&#039;t gain prominence until after the Jonestown incident. 

Jones may well have known about, and gotten his idea from Kesey&#039;s LSD technique, but I&#039;d judge that the metaphor started with Jonestown.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Despite my fondness for the Merry Pranksters, my recollection is that the common use of &#8220;drink the Kool-Aid&#8221;, in the sense of &#8216;subscribe to a group ideology&#8217; didn&#8217;t gain prominence until after the Jonestown incident. </p>
<p>Jones may well have known about, and gotten his idea from Kesey&#8217;s LSD technique, but I&#8217;d judge that the metaphor started with Jonestown.</p>
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		<title>By: Julian Sanchez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julian Sanchez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 21:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Petey:
    Consider undertaking a quick Google search before you &quot;correct&quot; people. It&#039;s apt to spare you a good deal of embarrassment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Petey:<br />
    Consider undertaking a quick Google search before you &#8220;correct&#8221; people. It&#8217;s apt to spare you a good deal of embarrassment.</p>
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