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		<title>By: モンクレール</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2008/09/30/desperately-seeking-sarah/comment-page-1/#comment-18260</link>
		<dc:creator>モンクレール</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 04:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>/joe sixpack your way through each challenge, why not see this as another chance to up your game? Not moral monstrosity, just fairly typical humanity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>/joe sixpack your way through each challenge, why not see this as another chance to up your game? Not moral monstrosity, just fairly typical humanity.</p>
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		<title>By: ゴヤール</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2008/09/30/desperately-seeking-sarah/comment-page-1/#comment-18083</link>
		<dc:creator>ゴヤール</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 06:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hen your life experience has taught you that you can charm/BS/joe sixpack your way through each challenge, why not see this as another chance to up y</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hen your life experience has taught you that you can charm/BS/joe sixpack your way through each challenge, why not see this as another chance to up y</p>
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		<title>By: Eunomia &#187; The Clueless Leading The Uninformed</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2008/09/30/desperately-seeking-sarah/comment-page-1/#comment-10589</link>
		<dc:creator>Eunomia &#187; The Clueless Leading The Uninformed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 01:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Clueless Leading The Uninformed Posted on September 30th, 2008 by Daniel Larison Digg&#160;&#160;Stumble Upon&#160;&#160;Newsvine&#160;&#160;Slashdot&#160;&#160;Mixx&#160;&#160;Diigo&#160;&#160;Google&#160;&#160;Delicious&#160;&#160;Reddit&#160;&#160;Facebook&#160;&#160;   It&#8217;s fundamental cluelessness about how the economy works, and a demonstrable inability to conceive of foreign policy in anything but the crudest terms. ~Julian Sanchez [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Clueless Leading The Uninformed Posted on September 30th, 2008 by Daniel Larison Digg&nbsp;&nbsp;Stumble Upon&nbsp;&nbsp;Newsvine&nbsp;&nbsp;Slashdot&nbsp;&nbsp;Mixx&nbsp;&nbsp;Diigo&nbsp;&nbsp;Google&nbsp;&nbsp;Delicious&nbsp;&nbsp;Reddit&nbsp;&nbsp;Facebook&nbsp;&nbsp;   It&#8217;s fundamental cluelessness about how the economy works, and a demonstrable inability to conceive of foreign policy in anything but the crudest terms. ~Julian Sanchez [...]</p>
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		<title>By: bayesian</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2008/09/30/desperately-seeking-sarah/comment-page-1/#comment-5869</link>
		<dc:creator>bayesian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 20:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan G., good point.  Plus add the religious aspect, the belief that in some fashion Ghod has told you to do this and/or chosen you for it, and it&#039;s more understandable.  

Further, when your life experience has taught you that you can charm/BS/joe sixpack your way through each challenge, why not see this as another chance to up your game?  Not moral monstrosity, just fairly typical humanity.

For all the Palin-defenders out there, remember particularly Tyler and A. Johnson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan G., good point.  Plus add the religious aspect, the belief that in some fashion Ghod has told you to do this and/or chosen you for it, and it&#8217;s more understandable.  </p>
<p>Further, when your life experience has taught you that you can charm/BS/joe sixpack your way through each challenge, why not see this as another chance to up your game?  Not moral monstrosity, just fairly typical humanity.</p>
<p>For all the Palin-defenders out there, remember particularly Tyler and A. Johnson.</p>
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		<title>By: Julian Sanchez</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2008/09/30/desperately-seeking-sarah/comment-page-1/#comment-5868</link>
		<dc:creator>Julian Sanchez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 18:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, since you asked, we all got our daily enciphered marching orders from Koch Central (couriered, as usual, in a black envelope by a man who, according to official records, does not exist) a few months back.   Once we&#039;ve ushered Obama into the White House thanks to our combined media might, we&#039;ll flash him the Queen of Diamonds and instruct him to implement the highly classified Protocols of the Elders of the Chicago School.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, since you asked, we all got our daily enciphered marching orders from Koch Central (couriered, as usual, in a black envelope by a man who, according to official records, does not exist) a few months back.   Once we&#8217;ve ushered Obama into the White House thanks to our combined media might, we&#8217;ll flash him the Queen of Diamonds and instruct him to implement the highly classified Protocols of the Elders of the Chicago School.</p>
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		<title>By: LaFollette Progessive</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2008/09/30/desperately-seeking-sarah/comment-page-1/#comment-5864</link>
		<dc:creator>LaFollette Progessive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 14:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;If Palin became president and started making off-the-wall decisions about major matters, her advisors and the leaders of the GOP would do something about it. &quot;&lt;/i&gt;

You know, I might have taken this argument seriously in January, 2001.  But coming from anyone who has lived in the United States of America for the past eight years, I would consider this statement to be evidence that the speaker has received an amateur lobotomy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;If Palin became president and started making off-the-wall decisions about major matters, her advisors and the leaders of the GOP would do something about it. &#8220;</i></p>
<p>You know, I might have taken this argument seriously in January, 2001.  But coming from anyone who has lived in the United States of America for the past eight years, I would consider this statement to be evidence that the speaker has received an amateur lobotomy.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2008/09/30/desperately-seeking-sarah/comment-page-1/#comment-5863</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 13:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What made Palin&#039;s answer particularly appalling is that the question was one which her &quot;base&quot; - about the only people left who still think she&#039;s of any value - absolutely salivates over.  Ranting about the activist liberal Court is precisely what these people want to hear about.  

She could have gone to town on Kelo v. New London (although that may blunt her ardent &quot;federalist&quot; position).  She could have criticized Engel v. Vitale or, even if she didn&#039;t know the case names, said something like &quot;I think, in several cases, the Court has been far too aggressive in preventing students from acknowledging their spiritual beliefs in school.&quot;

That was not a gotcha question.  That was a juicy fat pitch waiting to be clobbered out of the park.   Or perhaps we should say an &quot;empty netter&quot; for Palin. 

She blew it.  Not just because the &quot;elites&quot; mock her for her utter ignorance and lack of curiosity.  But because she couldn&#039;t satisfy even the people who support her.  I suppose there are still several people who will back her so long as she&#039;s not busted running a meth lab back in Wasilla.  But now there are even &quot;base&quot; supporters who are shaking their head in disbelief.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What made Palin&#8217;s answer particularly appalling is that the question was one which her &#8220;base&#8221; &#8211; about the only people left who still think she&#8217;s of any value &#8211; absolutely salivates over.  Ranting about the activist liberal Court is precisely what these people want to hear about.  </p>
<p>She could have gone to town on Kelo v. New London (although that may blunt her ardent &#8220;federalist&#8221; position).  She could have criticized Engel v. Vitale or, even if she didn&#8217;t know the case names, said something like &#8220;I think, in several cases, the Court has been far too aggressive in preventing students from acknowledging their spiritual beliefs in school.&#8221;</p>
<p>That was not a gotcha question.  That was a juicy fat pitch waiting to be clobbered out of the park.   Or perhaps we should say an &#8220;empty netter&#8221; for Palin. </p>
<p>She blew it.  Not just because the &#8220;elites&#8221; mock her for her utter ignorance and lack of curiosity.  But because she couldn&#8217;t satisfy even the people who support her.  I suppose there are still several people who will back her so long as she&#8217;s not busted running a meth lab back in Wasilla.  But now there are even &#8220;base&#8221; supporters who are shaking their head in disbelief.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan G.</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2008/09/30/desperately-seeking-sarah/comment-page-1/#comment-5860</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 06:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Julian Elson makes some good points, but I don&#039;t think it&#039;s entirely fair to limit the outcomes of his argument to ignoramus&#039; ignoramus vs. callous monster. To expand on the heart surgery example: imagine you were asked to perform that cardiac bypass, but also imagine that despite your misgivings, an entire organization of qualified surgeons not only rallied to your defense (despite your inexperience, and in some cases, even because of it), but actually went on record that you were particularly well-suited to work on this case; imagine if you weren&#039;t necessarily being asked to lead the surgical team, but directly assist the chief doctor, and perhaps even learn from his accumulated wisdom and experience; imagine that you were told your lack of surgical experience could be overlooked because your particular skill-set added something invaluable to the procedure; and so on... To be sure, we should expect (even demand) of Palin that she approach her decision with honesty and clarity. But her selection is not so much indicative of her personal failings as it is an organizational debacle. Which means maybe we should be asking whether the Republican leadership is stupid or dishonest.

One last point: imagine if those qualified surgeons made it clear to you that, should the patient die on the table, there would be no shortage of scapegoats, and that you might even come out of this looking like an even more appropriate candidate to be in the operating room the next go-round. Stupid or dishonest or extremely cynical?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Julian Elson makes some good points, but I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s entirely fair to limit the outcomes of his argument to ignoramus&#8217; ignoramus vs. callous monster. To expand on the heart surgery example: imagine you were asked to perform that cardiac bypass, but also imagine that despite your misgivings, an entire organization of qualified surgeons not only rallied to your defense (despite your inexperience, and in some cases, even because of it), but actually went on record that you were particularly well-suited to work on this case; imagine if you weren&#8217;t necessarily being asked to lead the surgical team, but directly assist the chief doctor, and perhaps even learn from his accumulated wisdom and experience; imagine that you were told your lack of surgical experience could be overlooked because your particular skill-set added something invaluable to the procedure; and so on&#8230; To be sure, we should expect (even demand) of Palin that she approach her decision with honesty and clarity. But her selection is not so much indicative of her personal failings as it is an organizational debacle. Which means maybe we should be asking whether the Republican leadership is stupid or dishonest.</p>
<p>One last point: imagine if those qualified surgeons made it clear to you that, should the patient die on the table, there would be no shortage of scapegoats, and that you might even come out of this looking like an even more appropriate candidate to be in the operating room the next go-round. Stupid or dishonest or extremely cynical?</p>
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		<title>By: Julian Elson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julian Elson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 03:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look. Presidents make decisions which kill people. Or sometimes they don&#039;t make decisions and their inacton kills people. Okay? Bill Clinton&#039;s decisions and indecisions lead to people being burnt to death in Waco and people being hacked to pieces with machetes in Rwanda. George Bush&#039;s decisions have lead to thousands of people dying in Iraq, drowning in New Orleans, and some being tortured to death in secret camps. I would bet that even the best presidents, presiding in the most placid times, have made errors in judgment that have lead to at least one needless fatality. I believe that Barack Obama will probably make at least one such decision during his term(s) if elected, and I am an Obama supporter.

If president, Palin will have to make the same kinds of calls that Clinton did while the ATF and FBI besieged the Branch Davidians, or that Bush did when he appointed Michael Brown as head of FEMA. The only way that she won&#039;t have to make those kinds of calls is if she is reduced to some sort of ceremonial role like the Emperor of Japan, and someone else will make those calls instead. If that&#039;s what you&#039;re pinning your hopes on, why not support that someone else for VP?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look. Presidents make decisions which kill people. Or sometimes they don&#8217;t make decisions and their inacton kills people. Okay? Bill Clinton&#8217;s decisions and indecisions lead to people being burnt to death in Waco and people being hacked to pieces with machetes in Rwanda. George Bush&#8217;s decisions have lead to thousands of people dying in Iraq, drowning in New Orleans, and some being tortured to death in secret camps. I would bet that even the best presidents, presiding in the most placid times, have made errors in judgment that have lead to at least one needless fatality. I believe that Barack Obama will probably make at least one such decision during his term(s) if elected, and I am an Obama supporter.</p>
<p>If president, Palin will have to make the same kinds of calls that Clinton did while the ATF and FBI besieged the Branch Davidians, or that Bush did when he appointed Michael Brown as head of FEMA. The only way that she won&#8217;t have to make those kinds of calls is if she is reduced to some sort of ceremonial role like the Emperor of Japan, and someone else will make those calls instead. If that&#8217;s what you&#8217;re pinning your hopes on, why not support that someone else for VP?</p>
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		<title>By: Julian Elson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julian Elson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 02:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is the worst possible consequence of an amateur attempting a cardiac bypass?

I would say that the worst possible consequence (a fairly likely one) is a single fatality.

Do you really think that our system of checks and balances means that an individual making low quality decisions as president or vice president of the United States never has consequences more severe -- and, indeed, always less severe -- than a single fatality?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the worst possible consequence of an amateur attempting a cardiac bypass?</p>
<p>I would say that the worst possible consequence (a fairly likely one) is a single fatality.</p>
<p>Do you really think that our system of checks and balances means that an individual making low quality decisions as president or vice president of the United States never has consequences more severe &#8212; and, indeed, always less severe &#8212; than a single fatality?</p>
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