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		<title>By: john marzan</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2008/07/09/snobbery/comment-page-1/#comment-5244</link>
		<dc:creator>john marzan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 08:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not surprised many Europeans are becoming more proficient in English, because here in Asia, more and more Chinese, Japanese, and Koreans are becoming bilingual too.

And English is their preferred second language.

The Chinese, the Japanese and Filipinos want to learn English because A) it is the language of the world (not French, not Spanish), the language of business, and B) because they want to do business with Americans, the global and economic superpower.

And if I were barack, i would not pander to the mexican vote by telling them that Americans should learn spanish. Instead, I would tell the immigrants that being proficient in English is the key to success and will open doors for the newcomers.

As for the Americans, I don&#039;t think their population is less bilingual than the brits and aussies.

of course, learning a new language is a good thing! spanish is nice (to communicate with the maids and laborers), but mandarin is better, so that americans will be able to talk to their new Chinese bosses in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not surprised many Europeans are becoming more proficient in English, because here in Asia, more and more Chinese, Japanese, and Koreans are becoming bilingual too.</p>
<p>And English is their preferred second language.</p>
<p>The Chinese, the Japanese and Filipinos want to learn English because A) it is the language of the world (not French, not Spanish), the language of business, and B) because they want to do business with Americans, the global and economic superpower.</p>
<p>And if I were barack, i would not pander to the mexican vote by telling them that Americans should learn spanish. Instead, I would tell the immigrants that being proficient in English is the key to success and will open doors for the newcomers.</p>
<p>As for the Americans, I don&#8217;t think their population is less bilingual than the brits and aussies.</p>
<p>of course, learning a new language is a good thing! spanish is nice (to communicate with the maids and laborers), but mandarin is better, so that americans will be able to talk to their new Chinese bosses in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Gil</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2008/07/09/snobbery/comment-page-1/#comment-5243</link>
		<dc:creator>Gil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 00:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That makes sense.  

Perhaps you should read more of the criticisms of McCain to see that there&#039;s plenty beyond-the-pale stuff being coming from that side, as well.

And, it&#039;s hard to avoid the election being &quot;about&quot; Obama, since he doesn&#039;t have a political history that tells us much.  People seem to be asked to have faith in his personality.

In any case, I think it&#039;s good to be aware of possible biases, and to avoid unjustified partisan support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That makes sense.  </p>
<p>Perhaps you should read more of the criticisms of McCain to see that there&#8217;s plenty beyond-the-pale stuff being coming from that side, as well.</p>
<p>And, it&#8217;s hard to avoid the election being &#8220;about&#8221; Obama, since he doesn&#8217;t have a political history that tells us much.  People seem to be asked to have faith in his personality.</p>
<p>In any case, I think it&#8217;s good to be aware of possible biases, and to avoid unjustified partisan support.</p>
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		<title>By: Julian Sanchez</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2008/07/09/snobbery/comment-page-1/#comment-5239</link>
		<dc:creator>Julian Sanchez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 20:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gil-
  Well, maybe.  I guess it&#039;s the critiques of Obama that are jumping out at me as silly and unfair  beyond the ordinary parameters of partisan hyperbole, so I end up talking about those. I think in part that&#039;s because most people regard this election as being more centrally &quot;about&quot; Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gil-<br />
  Well, maybe.  I guess it&#8217;s the critiques of Obama that are jumping out at me as silly and unfair  beyond the ordinary parameters of partisan hyperbole, so I end up talking about those. I think in part that&#8217;s because most people regard this election as being more centrally &#8220;about&#8221; Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: Xanthippas</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2008/07/09/snobbery/comment-page-1/#comment-5236</link>
		<dc:creator>Xanthippas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone please explain to me how being embarrassed about the fact that so few Americans can speak a second language is &quot;elitist.&quot; Check this out: while watching coverage of the Euro 2008 (yes I know, watching European soccer makes ME an elitist so take what I say with a grain of salt) I was struck by how many of the players were doing their press conferences in English. Note: England was NOT in the tournament. So, European ATHLETES can speak languages foreign to their own, where as our most highly educated citizens can speak nothing but English. What&#039;s NOT embarrassing about that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone please explain to me how being embarrassed about the fact that so few Americans can speak a second language is &#8220;elitist.&#8221; Check this out: while watching coverage of the Euro 2008 (yes I know, watching European soccer makes ME an elitist so take what I say with a grain of salt) I was struck by how many of the players were doing their press conferences in English. Note: England was NOT in the tournament. So, European ATHLETES can speak languages foreign to their own, where as our most highly educated citizens can speak nothing but English. What&#8217;s NOT embarrassing about that?</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Wood</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2008/07/09/snobbery/comment-page-1/#comment-5222</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would feel more comfortable if Obama showed some recognition that learning English as a second language is much more valuable to a Frenchman or a German than learning French or German would be for me.  

As it is, I suspect that he considers my speaking only English to be a character flaw rather than a reasonable trade off for the other things I spent my time learning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would feel more comfortable if Obama showed some recognition that learning English as a second language is much more valuable to a Frenchman or a German than learning French or German would be for me.  </p>
<p>As it is, I suspect that he considers my speaking only English to be a character flaw rather than a reasonable trade off for the other things I spent my time learning.</p>
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		<title>By: southpaw</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2008/07/09/snobbery/comment-page-1/#comment-5221</link>
		<dc:creator>southpaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Weekly Standard and the National Review need to get together on this. 

 As &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2008/07/obama_at_the_country_club.asp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;John McCormack would have it&lt;/a&gt;, this proposal reveals that Obama is a snob because he holds his countrymen in low regard.  

As &lt;a href=&quot;http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZWYzYWQ2OTkwY2FiOTgwYjUyMzU1M2FiMmY3ZWY4YWY=&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;John Derbyshire sees it&lt;/a&gt;, this proposal reveals that Obama is a fantasist because his countrymen are way too fucking stupid to ever learn another language. 

Seems a bit inconsistent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Weekly Standard and the National Review need to get together on this. </p>
<p> As <a href="http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2008/07/obama_at_the_country_club.asp" rel="nofollow">John McCormack would have it</a>, this proposal reveals that Obama is a snob because he holds his countrymen in low regard.  </p>
<p>As <a href="http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZWYzYWQ2OTkwY2FiOTgwYjUyMzU1M2FiMmY3ZWY4YWY=" rel="nofollow">John Derbyshire sees it</a>, this proposal reveals that Obama is a fantasist because his countrymen are way too fucking stupid to ever learn another language. </p>
<p>Seems a bit inconsistent.</p>
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		<title>By: Gil</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2008/07/09/snobbery/comment-page-1/#comment-5219</link>
		<dc:creator>Gil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be fair, lately, you do seem to be reaching for the least charitable interpretation of criticisms of Obama, but not of Obama himself.

It&#039;s not a &quot;mischaracterization&quot;, but it&#039;s also often no better than what you mock.

Don&#039;t get me wrong.  I like mocking.  But, when it looks like part of a pro-Obama campaign, I like it less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair, lately, you do seem to be reaching for the least charitable interpretation of criticisms of Obama, but not of Obama himself.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not a &#8220;mischaracterization&#8221;, but it&#8217;s also often no better than what you mock.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong.  I like mocking.  But, when it looks like part of a pro-Obama campaign, I like it less.</p>
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		<title>By: Ashish</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2008/07/09/snobbery/comment-page-1/#comment-5216</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 12:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How would it make him a hypocrite if he were a monoglot?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How would it make him a hypocrite if he were a monoglot?</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2008/07/09/snobbery/comment-page-1/#comment-5214</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 12:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think his bahasa Indonesia is really up to a level beyond basic either...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think his bahasa Indonesia is really up to a level beyond basic either&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Gil</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2008/07/09/snobbery/comment-page-1/#comment-5201</link>
		<dc:creator>Gil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 17:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, this criticism is stupid, but Obama&#039;s education agenda isn&#039;t really worthy of your defense.

Let me know when he favors school choice, or non-union teachers, or less federal spending and meddling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, this criticism is stupid, but Obama&#8217;s education agenda isn&#8217;t really worthy of your defense.</p>
<p>Let me know when he favors school choice, or non-union teachers, or less federal spending and meddling.</p>
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