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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2007/12/13/hetracil-for-real-this-time/comment-page-1/#comment-15259</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 06:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope it does.. I&#039;d take anything.. I wish i was only gay or even better a foot fetish.. I hate my life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope it does.. I&#8217;d take anything.. I wish i was only gay or even better a foot fetish.. I hate my life.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2007/12/13/hetracil-for-real-this-time/comment-page-1/#comment-15258</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 06:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will the pill cure fetishes like diapers balloons and furry costumes?</description>
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		<title>By: RedSoy</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2007/12/13/hetracil-for-real-this-time/comment-page-1/#comment-10744</link>
		<dc:creator>RedSoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 20:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should read &quot;Changes&quot;, a novel from Neil Gaiman. It asks interesting questions.</description>
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		<title>By: Lesborama</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2007/12/13/hetracil-for-real-this-time/comment-page-1/#comment-10619</link>
		<dc:creator>Lesborama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The time has come for a pill to cure stupidity!</description>
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		<title>By: Francocoon564</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2007/12/13/hetracil-for-real-this-time/comment-page-1/#comment-9739</link>
		<dc:creator>Francocoon564</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 01:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mankind is screwed by its own success.  Biology is a big damned mess!  These guys in white coats get tinkering w/ you and it&#039;s bed time for bonzo!  We were better off when nature was kicking our ass.  I will say this, pill or no, you take the most flaming homosexual on the planet, kill off the other males, and I guarantee you he&#039;ll repopulate the species.  Nature is a ho.
Still it might be nice for an &quot;effiminate&quot; child to have a choice.  Shouldn&#039;t be a threat to other gays, no one would make them take the pill....still I think most would take it.  Eugenics alas is here to stay.  We have to just roll with it.  As for now I still like girl&#039;s butts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mankind is screwed by its own success.  Biology is a big damned mess!  These guys in white coats get tinkering w/ you and it&#8217;s bed time for bonzo!  We were better off when nature was kicking our ass.  I will say this, pill or no, you take the most flaming homosexual on the planet, kill off the other males, and I guarantee you he&#8217;ll repopulate the species.  Nature is a ho.<br />
Still it might be nice for an &#8220;effiminate&#8221; child to have a choice.  Shouldn&#8217;t be a threat to other gays, no one would make them take the pill&#8230;.still I think most would take it.  Eugenics alas is here to stay.  We have to just roll with it.  As for now I still like girl&#8217;s butts.</p>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 09:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to see a pill to turn Heteros gay.
With the population out of control, do we really need more breeding vermin?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to see a pill to turn Heteros gay.<br />
With the population out of control, do we really need more breeding vermin?</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 04:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MikeT,

It is not clear that homosexuality is a biological mistake in the sense of a maladaptation.

We often interpret natural selection as operating at the level of the individual, but nature is more subtle than that. Sometimes it is more helpful to think of it at the genetic level. And at this level the existence of a gay gene (or whatever inherited factor) is interesting but not inexplicable by natural selection. It could well be adaptive.

How? Here&#039;s one way.

A few years back researchers found that female maternal relatives of gay men tend to be more fecund than the average gal (&lt;a href=&quot;http://journals.royalsociety.org/content/rdd98tj9a5bk1xla/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Proceeding of the Royal Society 2004&lt;/a&gt;). The cartoon idea is that the factors endows the women in the family with super-heterosexuality, but occasionally gives sons homosexuality. The upshot: it could be that this inherited factor is a boon to inclusive fitness on the whole.

That is one way that homosexuality may not be a biological mistake. You may say that if natural selection had its druthers there&#039;d be extra fecundity without homosexuality, but that is stretching the intentional metaphor too far.

And anyway, it&#039;s not as if what you perceive as nature&#039;s intention is normative.

Also, it&#039;s not clear that individuals care much about having as many grandkids as possible. If that were true all men would donate to sperm banks and sire hundreds.

More likely people just do not want their kids to be different for the same reason that they don&#039;t want their house to be a weird color: &quot;What would the neighbors think??&quot;


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MikeT,</p>
<p>It is not clear that homosexuality is a biological mistake in the sense of a maladaptation.</p>
<p>We often interpret natural selection as operating at the level of the individual, but nature is more subtle than that. Sometimes it is more helpful to think of it at the genetic level. And at this level the existence of a gay gene (or whatever inherited factor) is interesting but not inexplicable by natural selection. It could well be adaptive.</p>
<p>How? Here&#8217;s one way.</p>
<p>A few years back researchers found that female maternal relatives of gay men tend to be more fecund than the average gal (<a href="http://journals.royalsociety.org/content/rdd98tj9a5bk1xla/" rel="nofollow">Proceeding of the Royal Society 2004</a>). The cartoon idea is that the factors endows the women in the family with super-heterosexuality, but occasionally gives sons homosexuality. The upshot: it could be that this inherited factor is a boon to inclusive fitness on the whole.</p>
<p>That is one way that homosexuality may not be a biological mistake. You may say that if natural selection had its druthers there&#8217;d be extra fecundity without homosexuality, but that is stretching the intentional metaphor too far.</p>
<p>And anyway, it&#8217;s not as if what you perceive as nature&#8217;s intention is normative.</p>
<p>Also, it&#8217;s not clear that individuals care much about having as many grandkids as possible. If that were true all men would donate to sperm banks and sire hundreds.</p>
<p>More likely people just do not want their kids to be different for the same reason that they don&#8217;t want their house to be a weird color: &#8220;What would the neighbors think??&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: MikeT</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 03:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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And I can imagine that parent will in fact abort their gay children if it is a quality that is detectable in the womb, or even have it changed. We need only look to the number of children born with Downs Syndrome in America in the past twenty years. The number is drastically down, coinciding with the ability of science to detect this problem in utero.
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Wouldn&#039;t the most effective way to prevent this selective abortion be to declare abortion without medical necessity to be illegal? Getting upset about the motives behind the abortion is just splitting hairs.
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And I can imagine that parent will in fact abort their gay children if it is a quality that is detectable in the womb, or even have it changed. We need only look to the number of children born with Downs Syndrome in America in the past twenty years. The number is drastically down, coinciding with the ability of science to detect this problem in utero.
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<p>Wouldn&#8217;t the most effective way to prevent this selective abortion be to declare abortion without medical necessity to be illegal? Getting upset about the motives behind the abortion is just splitting hairs.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeT</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2007/12/13/hetracil-for-real-this-time/comment-page-1/#comment-3462</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 03:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Make no mistake about it. From a biological point of view, homosexuality is not a good thing. It is a defect in an organism that makes its normal behavior unconducive to ever reproducing. On just a biological level, I don&#039;t think you could fault a parent who want to cure such an obvious defect in their child.

People give homosexuality a pass when it comes to calling it a defect, but what if it were another sexual preference that was a deviation from being attracted to sexually mature members of the opposite sex? You&#039;d see few people arguing that such a cure isn&#039;t an unqualified good for the person who has to deal with them.

It&#039;s fine for someone to choose to remain homosexual, but it&#039;s also perfectly fine for two parents to decide to tinker a little with their child&#039;s DNA for the sole purpose of fixing genetic defects, in order to give their child a healthier, happier life.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Make no mistake about it. From a biological point of view, homosexuality is not a good thing. It is a defect in an organism that makes its normal behavior unconducive to ever reproducing. On just a biological level, I don&#8217;t think you could fault a parent who want to cure such an obvious defect in their child.</p>
<p>People give homosexuality a pass when it comes to calling it a defect, but what if it were another sexual preference that was a deviation from being attracted to sexually mature members of the opposite sex? You&#8217;d see few people arguing that such a cure isn&#8217;t an unqualified good for the person who has to deal with them.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s fine for someone to choose to remain homosexual, but it&#8217;s also perfectly fine for two parents to decide to tinker a little with their child&#8217;s DNA for the sole purpose of fixing genetic defects, in order to give their child a healthier, happier life.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 18:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, it is fun to consider the selection effects this will create when adults can freely chose to take it or not.

Out gay people today are more interesting than the general population because to be a member of their set you have to have, by definition, gone against a strong social norm to follow you inclinations.

Now just imagine a world in which hetracil is widely available. Suddenly being an out gay means not only following your inclinations, but even refusing to change your inclinations. What an interesting group of people that would be!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, it is fun to consider the selection effects this will create when adults can freely chose to take it or not.</p>
<p>Out gay people today are more interesting than the general population because to be a member of their set you have to have, by definition, gone against a strong social norm to follow you inclinations.</p>
<p>Now just imagine a world in which hetracil is widely available. Suddenly being an out gay means not only following your inclinations, but even refusing to change your inclinations. What an interesting group of people that would be!</p>
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