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		<title>By: モンクレール</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2007/08/15/outsight/comment-page-1/#comment-18257</link>
		<dc:creator>モンクレール</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 04:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>d hip) ideas is by going back to the ‘utterly elementary,’ despite the risk of seeming ‘be</description>
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		<title>By: ゴヤール</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2007/08/15/outsight/comment-page-1/#comment-18080</link>
		<dc:creator>ゴヤール</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 06:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ementary and fundamental point that has been overlooked in the discussion. It’s what I call the aristotelian brain fart. Most of the people in this thread are idiot</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ementary and fundamental point that has been overlooked in the discussion. It’s what I call the aristotelian brain fart. Most of the people in this thread are idiot</p>
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		<title>By: walter gremillion</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2007/08/15/outsight/comment-page-1/#comment-12147</link>
		<dc:creator>walter gremillion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2010 16:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amusing
I have an example,  every physicist knows that the universe is of a wave nature, Plato, Newton, Einstein UNDERSTOOD this.  Yet physicists continue to describe the universe in euclician terms.  This is fine if you&#039;re trying to build a bridge but totally inadequate if you&#039;re trying to understand the nature of the universe.  Pointing this out to a physicist is an an &quot;outsight&quot;, an elementary and fundamental point that has been overlooked in the discussion.   It&#039;s what I call the aristotelian brain fart.  Most of the people in this thread are idiots, (used in the clinical sense.) excepting lj and one other.  Don&#039;t take umbrage, you&#039;re in good company. most people are idiots.  
http://ellocogringo.wordpress.com/2009/06/22/brain-fart/
walt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amusing<br />
I have an example,  every physicist knows that the universe is of a wave nature, Plato, Newton, Einstein UNDERSTOOD this.  Yet physicists continue to describe the universe in euclician terms.  This is fine if you&#8217;re trying to build a bridge but totally inadequate if you&#8217;re trying to understand the nature of the universe.  Pointing this out to a physicist is an an &#8220;outsight&#8221;, an elementary and fundamental point that has been overlooked in the discussion.   It&#8217;s what I call the aristotelian brain fart.  Most of the people in this thread are idiots, (used in the clinical sense.) excepting lj and one other.  Don&#8217;t take umbrage, you&#8217;re in good company. most people are idiots.<br />
<a href="http://ellocogringo.wordpress.com/2009/06/22/brain-fart/" rel="nofollow">http://ellocogringo.wordpress.com/2009/06/22/brain-fart/</a><br />
walt</p>
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		<title>By: Ross</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2007/08/15/outsight/comment-page-1/#comment-10652</link>
		<dc:creator>Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 08:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, I submitted this to StumbleUpon.  I really liked it.  I discovered my life calling tonight and you prevented me from taking outsight from a person I was really asking for insight from but was going to say outsight because of their out sider status.. I&#039;ll try to check more out later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, I submitted this to StumbleUpon.  I really liked it.  I discovered my life calling tonight and you prevented me from taking outsight from a person I was really asking for insight from but was going to say outsight because of their out sider status.. I&#8217;ll try to check more out later.</p>
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		<title>By: Michel Rouzic</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2007/08/15/outsight/comment-page-1/#comment-6912</link>
		<dc:creator>Michel Rouzic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 14:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting, I googled &quot;outsight&quot; after wondering if that&#039;s what an outsider&#039;s insight would be called (and found your page). By outsider insight I mean something that insiders do not realise about themselves that the &quot;insight&quot; of an outsider can reveal to them. For example that could be a foreigner being struck by the oddity of something taken within the observed society as normal and natural, and by revealing that to insiders of this society they would benefit from the insight about themselves, that insight from the outside.

I like your definition though, it sounds more dickish and elitist. It&#039;s quite similar in meaning to &quot;Thanks Captain Obvious&quot;, isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting, I googled &#8220;outsight&#8221; after wondering if that&#8217;s what an outsider&#8217;s insight would be called (and found your page). By outsider insight I mean something that insiders do not realise about themselves that the &#8220;insight&#8221; of an outsider can reveal to them. For example that could be a foreigner being struck by the oddity of something taken within the observed society as normal and natural, and by revealing that to insiders of this society they would benefit from the insight about themselves, that insight from the outside.</p>
<p>I like your definition though, it sounds more dickish and elitist. It&#8217;s quite similar in meaning to &#8220;Thanks Captain Obvious&#8221;, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Light</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2007/08/15/outsight/comment-page-1/#comment-4540</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Light</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 17:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I once took a class on Wittgenstein in which I felt hopelessly ignorant.  Then, each of us took turns teaching the class for one lecture, and in desperation I simply talked about some of Wittgenstein&#039;s points that should be obvious to a ten year old.  In other words, I would have considered them outsights (a lovely word).  Afterwards, several classmates complimented me on the lecture and said my earlier silence in class had led them to wonder if I understood Wittgenstein, but now they saw that I had an excellent understanding of Wittgenstein.

This reinforced my belief that most philosophy is simple ideas badly expressed so as to make them seem more insightful than they are.  Such cases make it difficult to know when an outsight is necessary, and when it is gauche.

However, I have seen many clearer cases of outsights.  For example, stupid people who have suddenly had the epiphany that for speakers of a foreign language, that language is not foreign.  &quot;And I had thought they just learned Spanish so they could talk without me understanding what they said!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I once took a class on Wittgenstein in which I felt hopelessly ignorant.  Then, each of us took turns teaching the class for one lecture, and in desperation I simply talked about some of Wittgenstein&#8217;s points that should be obvious to a ten year old.  In other words, I would have considered them outsights (a lovely word).  Afterwards, several classmates complimented me on the lecture and said my earlier silence in class had led them to wonder if I understood Wittgenstein, but now they saw that I had an excellent understanding of Wittgenstein.</p>
<p>This reinforced my belief that most philosophy is simple ideas badly expressed so as to make them seem more insightful than they are.  Such cases make it difficult to know when an outsight is necessary, and when it is gauche.</p>
<p>However, I have seen many clearer cases of outsights.  For example, stupid people who have suddenly had the epiphany that for speakers of a foreign language, that language is not foreign.  &#8220;And I had thought they just learned Spanish so they could talk without me understanding what they said!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Swimmy</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2007/08/15/outsight/comment-page-1/#comment-3017</link>
		<dc:creator>Swimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 03:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I nominate all instances of, &quot;There&#039;s a difference between legal and illegal immigration&quot; as outsight. Yes, there is a difference, and we have been discussing the validity of that distinction. Thank you for your outsight.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I nominate all instances of, &#8220;There&#8217;s a difference between legal and illegal immigration&#8221; as outsight. Yes, there is a difference, and we have been discussing the validity of that distinction. Thank you for your outsight.</p>
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		<title>By: Art A Layman</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2007/08/15/outsight/comment-page-1/#comment-3016</link>
		<dc:creator>Art A Layman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 18:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh my!  Have I ever been guilty of &quot;outsights&quot;.  Of course it generally is because my fellow debaters ain&#039;t real bright.

I do think you have to separate the two groups Mr. Sanchez includes in his analysis.  If you are truly among &quot;experts&quot; in a particular subject matter then a statement of the obvious might very well be inappropriate.  There are many retorts however that can assuage the situation and let the discussion continue.  Alas, often &quot;experts&quot; lack the social graces to employ these kinds of retorts.  Or are either too pretentious or egocentric to consider discretion as the better part of valor.

In the more normative setting, where the discussers are relying on &quot;native intelligence&quot; (often an oxymoron) or perhaps are all just well read on events, the &quot;outsight&quot; occurrence perhaps might even be necessary.

I love to argue, debate, call it what you will, and frequently involve myself in the hot topics of economics, politics, sex or religion.  It is immaterial that I enjoy pontificating as well.  Anyway, I often find that today&#039;s politics has invaded not only the dialogue but the thought processes of many of us.  Often in discussions I hear &quot;sound bites&quot; as arguments.  They are usually offered as if they are a summation of a universal truth that everyone should know (could these be &quot;outsights&quot;?).  Example: &quot;Saddam was a bad man, therefore it was necessary and important for us to take him out&quot;.  This statement does nothing to explore all the implications of &quot;taking him out&quot;.  In this instance it might be necessary to state obvious facts to attempt to build a response that both counters the &quot;sound bite&quot; and hopefully expands the dialogue.

My point is that we have become a nation of shorthanders.  It is so much easier to spout the seemingly acceptable slogan as a serious discussion point rather than invoke the laborious process of thinking about what you want to say and formulating a sound logical basis for your viewpoint.

I fear I will be left with, &quot;suffering fools gladly&quot;.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my!  Have I ever been guilty of &#8220;outsights&#8221;.  Of course it generally is because my fellow debaters ain&#8217;t real bright.</p>
<p>I do think you have to separate the two groups Mr. Sanchez includes in his analysis.  If you are truly among &#8220;experts&#8221; in a particular subject matter then a statement of the obvious might very well be inappropriate.  There are many retorts however that can assuage the situation and let the discussion continue.  Alas, often &#8220;experts&#8221; lack the social graces to employ these kinds of retorts.  Or are either too pretentious or egocentric to consider discretion as the better part of valor.</p>
<p>In the more normative setting, where the discussers are relying on &#8220;native intelligence&#8221; (often an oxymoron) or perhaps are all just well read on events, the &#8220;outsight&#8221; occurrence perhaps might even be necessary.</p>
<p>I love to argue, debate, call it what you will, and frequently involve myself in the hot topics of economics, politics, sex or religion.  It is immaterial that I enjoy pontificating as well.  Anyway, I often find that today&#8217;s politics has invaded not only the dialogue but the thought processes of many of us.  Often in discussions I hear &#8220;sound bites&#8221; as arguments.  They are usually offered as if they are a summation of a universal truth that everyone should know (could these be &#8220;outsights&#8221;?).  Example: &#8220;Saddam was a bad man, therefore it was necessary and important for us to take him out&#8221;.  This statement does nothing to explore all the implications of &#8220;taking him out&#8221;.  In this instance it might be necessary to state obvious facts to attempt to build a response that both counters the &#8220;sound bite&#8221; and hopefully expands the dialogue.</p>
<p>My point is that we have become a nation of shorthanders.  It is so much easier to spout the seemingly acceptable slogan as a serious discussion point rather than invoke the laborious process of thinking about what you want to say and formulating a sound logical basis for your viewpoint.</p>
<p>I fear I will be left with, &#8220;suffering fools gladly&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil the Ethical Werewolf</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2007/08/15/outsight/comment-page-1/#comment-3015</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil the Ethical Werewolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 18:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like how it gives you &quot;outsightful&quot;.
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2007/08/15/outsight/comment-page-1/#comment-3014</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 16:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is an outslight what happens to those who deliver outsights?
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