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]]> By: Kyle http://www.juliansanchez.com/2007/08/13/fat-state-thin-state-red-state-blue-state/comment-page-1/#comment-2962 Kyle Thu, 06 Sep 2007 04:39:06 +0000 http://juliansanchez.com/?p=1981#comment-2962 Hi, Julian - I haven't read your blog in quite some time, but saw this linked from Marginal Revolution today. Thought I'd go ahead and share a link for a version of CDC Obesity Map that we did at Revolution Health, that allows you to see the obesity trends over time, specifically, from 1990-2006. CDC Obesity Map: http://www.revolutionhealth.com/healthy-living/weight-management/obesity-epidemic Hi, Julian -

I haven’t read your blog in quite some time, but saw this linked from Marginal Revolution today.

Thought I’d go ahead and share a link for a version of CDC Obesity Map that we did at Revolution Health, that allows you to see the obesity trends over time, specifically, from 1990-2006.

CDC Obesity Map:
http://www.revolutionhealth.com/healthy-living/weight-management/obesity-epidemic

]]> By: Kriston http://www.juliansanchez.com/2007/08/13/fat-state-thin-state-red-state-blue-state/comment-page-1/#comment-2961 Kriston Thu, 16 Aug 2007 18:19:27 +0000 http://juliansanchez.com/?p=1981#comment-2961 That map would be cooler if the lardier states were graphically engorged. That map would be cooler if the lardier states were graphically engorged.

]]> By: Emma Zahn http://www.juliansanchez.com/2007/08/13/fat-state-thin-state-red-state-blue-state/comment-page-1/#comment-2960 Emma Zahn Wed, 15 Aug 2007 22:33:04 +0000 http://juliansanchez.com/?p=1981#comment-2960 Barry, I really have no idea how many generations are required to produce a genetic variation though I would guess that it is probably less than we are generally led to believe. Then too, a large proportion of the poorer South are descendants of the people known as the Scotch-Irish who lived a very bleak existence for several hundred years before migrating first to Ulster then to here. The migrants also intermarried quite often with Native Americans. I also really have no idea to what extent insulin resistance accounts for the so-called obesity epidemic. Personally, I sometimes wonder if Miracle-Gro is just making its way up the food chain. :-) Is this an outsight? Barry,

I really have no idea how many generations are required to produce a genetic variation though I would guess that it is probably less than we are generally led to believe.

Then too, a large proportion of the poorer South are descendants of the people known as the Scotch-Irish who lived a very bleak existence for several hundred years before migrating first to Ulster then to here. The migrants also intermarried quite often with Native Americans.

I also really have no idea to what extent insulin resistance accounts for the so-called obesity epidemic. Personally, I sometimes wonder if Miracle-Gro is just making its way up the food chain. :-)

Is this an outsight?

]]> By: Barry http://www.juliansanchez.com/2007/08/13/fat-state-thin-state-red-state-blue-state/comment-page-1/#comment-2959 Barry Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:52:07 +0000 http://juliansanchez.com/?p=1981#comment-2959 Emma, that would be a two-three generation gap in nutrition. Is that enough for major genetic effects? IIRC, the trend towards diabetes was noticeable in populations which were just coming out of a stone age economy. Emma, that would be a two-three generation gap in nutrition. Is that enough for major genetic effects? IIRC, the trend towards diabetes was noticeable in populations which were just coming out of a stone age economy.

]]> By: Emma Zahn http://www.juliansanchez.com/2007/08/13/fat-state-thin-state-red-state-blue-state/comment-page-1/#comment-2958 Emma Zahn Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:19:42 +0000 http://juliansanchez.com/?p=1981#comment-2958 What about insulin resistance? Populations that not all that long ago lived mostly at a subsistence levels may not process sugars as effectively as others. There is at least one Native American tribe, I can't remember which, for whom the modern diet is especially fattening. What many people forget, or never knew, is just how poor the South was prior to the 1950's, and not just blacks. There is not a lot of nutrition in cornbread and buttermilk. Pellagra was at epidemic proportions in the early 1900's as were many other nutritional deficiencies. It is not unreasonable to think that variations in nutritional requirements exist in populations based on the diet on which that population survived. What about insulin resistance?

Populations that not all that long ago lived mostly at a subsistence levels may not process sugars as effectively as others. There is at least one Native American tribe, I can’t remember which, for whom the modern diet is especially fattening.

What many people forget, or never knew, is just how poor the South was prior to the 1950′s, and not just blacks. There is not a lot of nutrition in cornbread and buttermilk. Pellagra was at epidemic proportions in the early 1900′s as were many other nutritional deficiencies. It is not unreasonable to think that variations in nutritional requirements exist in populations based on the diet on which that population survived.

]]> By: Julian Sanchez http://www.juliansanchez.com/2007/08/13/fat-state-thin-state-red-state-blue-state/comment-page-1/#comment-2957 Julian Sanchez Tue, 14 Aug 2007 08:12:53 +0000 http://juliansanchez.com/?p=1981#comment-2957 Von Laue: Well, it depends where they're coming from, but if you're talking about immigrants from genuinely poor countries, you might imagine that someone moving from the brink of real hunger to a situation where they can easily afford plenty of calories (whether they're healthy or nutritious being another story) would be inclined to go all out, as it were. Von Laue:
Well, it depends where they’re coming from, but if you’re talking about immigrants from genuinely poor countries, you might imagine that someone moving from the brink of real hunger to a situation where they can easily afford plenty of calories (whether they’re healthy or nutritious being another story) would be inclined to go all out, as it were.

]]> By: Grigsby http://www.juliansanchez.com/2007/08/13/fat-state-thin-state-red-state-blue-state/comment-page-1/#comment-2956 Grigsby Tue, 14 Aug 2007 06:23:38 +0000 http://juliansanchez.com/?p=1981#comment-2956 and also, you must also think about the kind of food they eat down south. Most of it is basically a bland lump of grease. So they don't walk much, and they also eat really greasy food. and also, you must also think about the kind of food they eat down south. Most of it is basically a bland lump of grease. So they don’t walk much, and they also eat really greasy food.

]]> By: von Laue http://www.juliansanchez.com/2007/08/13/fat-state-thin-state-red-state-blue-state/comment-page-1/#comment-2955 von Laue Tue, 14 Aug 2007 05:56:10 +0000 http://juliansanchez.com/?p=1981#comment-2955 here in a Maryland DC suburb, the thing that surprises me is how fat the immigrants often are. They can (and must) obtain foods closely approximating what they got in their native lands. I wonder why they get fat, seeing as how being a greedy horrible american isn't the reason: is it the cars? relative abundance? going native? here in a Maryland DC suburb, the thing that surprises me is how fat the immigrants often are. They can (and must) obtain foods closely approximating what they got in their native lands. I wonder why they get fat, seeing as how being a greedy horrible american isn’t the reason: is it the cars? relative abundance? going native?

]]> By: Adam http://www.juliansanchez.com/2007/08/13/fat-state-thin-state-red-state-blue-state/comment-page-1/#comment-2954 Adam Mon, 13 Aug 2007 21:32:23 +0000 http://juliansanchez.com/?p=1981#comment-2954 Well, yeah. A few years ago I moved to Philly, which recently had been named the fattest city in America. America is known as a fat country, so surely the fattest city in this fattest country had to be truly obese. But it wasn't, at least not in the nice gentrified city center where myself and the other graduate students lived and bar-hopped. The surrounding poor and predominately African-American outskirts, on the other hand, were a different story. The fact is, the distribution of fat in America is -- wait for it -- quite lumpy. Well, yeah. A few years ago I moved to Philly, which recently had been named the fattest city in America. America is known as a fat country, so surely the fattest city in this fattest country had to be truly obese.

But it wasn’t, at least not in the nice gentrified city center where myself and the other graduate students lived and bar-hopped.

The surrounding poor and predominately African-American outskirts, on the other hand, were a different story. The fact is, the distribution of fat in America is — wait for it — quite lumpy.

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