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	<title>Comments on: Fact Check Yo&#8217;self Before You Wreck Yo&#8217;self</title>
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	<description>Just another geek in the geek kingdom</description>
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		<title>By: Jon H</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2007/08/07/fact-check-yoself-before-you-wreck-yoself/comment-page-1/#comment-2914</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 06:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But if you think that a chowhall full of soldiers is going to sit there and allow a wounded woman to be abused, then I have to believe you&#039;ve never been in the military. Not_gonna_happen. Ask any soldier or Marine.&quot;

Yeah, because soldiers and Marines never mistreat or disrespect women. I bet the bargirls of Asia would disagree. Also: Tailhook.

Spare me. There are good men and women in the military. There are bad men and women in the military. For every unblemished saint in uniform there&#039;s surely two or more green 18 year olds whose sense of humor and propriety were formed by listening to Bubba the Love Sponge or Opie and Anthony or Howard Stern.

(Just to be clear, unblemished saints are as rare in every walk of life. If anything if the military does have a 1:2 ratio of saints to creeps it would be considerably better than in the civilian world.)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But if you think that a chowhall full of soldiers is going to sit there and allow a wounded woman to be abused, then I have to believe you&#8217;ve never been in the military. Not_gonna_happen. Ask any soldier or Marine.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, because soldiers and Marines never mistreat or disrespect women. I bet the bargirls of Asia would disagree. Also: Tailhook.</p>
<p>Spare me. There are good men and women in the military. There are bad men and women in the military. For every unblemished saint in uniform there&#8217;s surely two or more green 18 year olds whose sense of humor and propriety were formed by listening to Bubba the Love Sponge or Opie and Anthony or Howard Stern.</p>
<p>(Just to be clear, unblemished saints are as rare in every walk of life. If anything if the military does have a 1:2 ratio of saints to creeps it would be considerably better than in the civilian world.)</p>
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		<title>By: maurice</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2007/08/07/fact-check-yoself-before-you-wreck-yoself/comment-page-1/#comment-2913</link>
		<dc:creator>maurice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 05:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Riiiight.&quot;

Hey, believe what you like, it makes no difference to me.

But if you think that a chowhall full of soldiers is going to sit there and allow a wounded woman to be abused, then I have to believe you&#039;ve never been in the military. Not_gonna_happen. Ask any soldier or Marine.

But it&#039;s all going to come out very shortly, as the military is going to be pushed to the point where they have to release their investigation details.



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Riiiight.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hey, believe what you like, it makes no difference to me.</p>
<p>But if you think that a chowhall full of soldiers is going to sit there and allow a wounded woman to be abused, then I have to believe you&#8217;ve never been in the military. Not_gonna_happen. Ask any soldier or Marine.</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s all going to come out very shortly, as the military is going to be pushed to the point where they have to release their investigation details.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon H</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2007/08/07/fact-check-yoself-before-you-wreck-yoself/comment-page-1/#comment-2912</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 03:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There would have been a literal, physical beating had someone overheard that. Not rhetoric, but an actual beating.&quot;

Riiiight.

By that logic, surely someone must have overheard, and beaten up, the group of soldiers who plotted to rape and murder a young girl and kill her family. So clearly that murder plot couldn&#039;t have been carried out.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There would have been a literal, physical beating had someone overheard that. Not rhetoric, but an actual beating.&#8221;</p>
<p>Riiiight.</p>
<p>By that logic, surely someone must have overheard, and beaten up, the group of soldiers who plotted to rape and murder a young girl and kill her family. So clearly that murder plot couldn&#8217;t have been carried out.</p>
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		<title>By: maurice</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2007/08/07/fact-check-yoself-before-you-wreck-yoself/comment-page-1/#comment-2911</link>
		<dc:creator>maurice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 00:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never heard of Pvt Beauchamp before his third article. When I read it, what struck me, as a former Marine, as &lt;b&gt;completely&lt;/b&gt; implausible, was that taunting of a burned woman.

Most people who have served will tell you the same: There would have been a literal, physical beating had someone overheard that. Not rhetoric, but an actual beating.

A lot of people who haven&#039;t served don&#039;t &lt;i&gt;get&lt;/i&gt; that. That&#039;s why they don&#039;t understand how so many people could suddenly say &quot;WTF?!&quot; upon reading it, after the earlier stuff went by.

Now, consider the convenient moving of the chow hall location. And that&#039;s what it is: convenient. The one thing that was easy to disprove was the presence of a burned woman at FOB Falcon. Suddenly, Beauchamp&#039;s friends say it was elsewhere; He was &quot;mistaken.&quot;

But, if it was elsewhere, that goes against the whole premise of the series, doesn&#039;t it? And how does a young man make a mistake like that? I mean, he saw her *every day* at the FOB Falcon chow hall, right?

C&#039;mon..
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never heard of Pvt Beauchamp before his third article. When I read it, what struck me, as a former Marine, as <b>completely</b> implausible, was that taunting of a burned woman.</p>
<p>Most people who have served will tell you the same: There would have been a literal, physical beating had someone overheard that. Not rhetoric, but an actual beating.</p>
<p>A lot of people who haven&#8217;t served don&#8217;t <i>get</i> that. That&#8217;s why they don&#8217;t understand how so many people could suddenly say &#8220;WTF?!&#8221; upon reading it, after the earlier stuff went by.</p>
<p>Now, consider the convenient moving of the chow hall location. And that&#8217;s what it is: convenient. The one thing that was easy to disprove was the presence of a burned woman at FOB Falcon. Suddenly, Beauchamp&#8217;s friends say it was elsewhere; He was &#8220;mistaken.&#8221;</p>
<p>But, if it was elsewhere, that goes against the whole premise of the series, doesn&#8217;t it? And how does a young man make a mistake like that? I mean, he saw her *every day* at the FOB Falcon chow hall, right?</p>
<p>C&#8217;mon..</p>
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		<title>By: Jon H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 04:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And by hacks I mean the Weekly Standard.

TNR has not been able to corroborate the supposed &#039;recantation&#039;.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And by hacks I mean the Weekly Standard.</p>
<p>TNR has not been able to corroborate the supposed &#8216;recantation&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon H</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2007/08/07/fact-check-yoself-before-you-wreck-yoself/comment-page-1/#comment-2909</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 04:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The Weekly Standard is reporting that the author has recanted.&quot;

You should know better than to believe those hacks.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Weekly Standard is reporting that the author has recanted.&#8221;</p>
<p>You should know better than to believe those hacks.</p>
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