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		<title>By: Julian Elson</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2007/06/04/the-market-for-penetration/comment-page-1/#comment-2477</link>
		<dc:creator>Julian Elson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about xtube?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about xtube?</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2007/06/04/the-market-for-penetration/comment-page-1/#comment-2476</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 22:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just looked at that site.  Pornotube mimics Youtube in style, as a manner of advertising.  It is most definitely not a portal for amateurs to share videos with one another.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just looked at that site.  Pornotube mimics Youtube in style, as a manner of advertising.  It is most definitely not a portal for amateurs to share videos with one another.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 02:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Posted by: Nick at June 7, 2007 9:18 AM

Not that ten seconds on google would have failed to tell you all about pornotube.com...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Posted by: Nick at June 7, 2007 9:18 AM</p>
<p>Not that ten seconds on google would have failed to tell you all about pornotube.com&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2007/06/04/the-market-for-penetration/comment-page-1/#comment-2474</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 15:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s probably a lot of money to be made in a sort of YouTube for porn, where amateurs can upload their videos and view others&#039;.  &lt;i&gt;I&#039;m&lt;/i&gt; not touching that legal nightmare with a ten foot pole, but I&#039;d lay money that such a site will show up--if it hasn&#039;t already.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s probably a lot of money to be made in a sort of YouTube for porn, where amateurs can upload their videos and view others&#8217;.  <i>I&#8217;m</i> not touching that legal nightmare with a ten foot pole, but I&#8217;d lay money that such a site will show up&#8211;if it hasn&#8217;t already.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin B. O'Reilly</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2007/06/04/the-market-for-penetration/comment-page-1/#comment-2473</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin B. O'Reilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 02:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ineffable179, again, is someone who appears to actually know something about pornography.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ineffable179, again, is someone who appears to actually know something about pornography.</p>
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		<title>By: ineffable179</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2007/06/04/the-market-for-penetration/comment-page-1/#comment-2472</link>
		<dc:creator>ineffable179</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 22:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think there is a serious flaw lurking in this argument. Where is all this free amateur porn that is supposedly crippling the professional porn studios? The one website that is actually mentioned in the NYT article is a pay-per-minute site that has tons of professionally produced content. The difference is in the method of distribution, not the content.

&lt;p&gt;The popularity of Burning Angel and Suicide Girls (mentioned in your post from last week) doesn&#039;t seem to me to suggest a preference for more realistic porn. Many people find the girls on those sits to be genuinely more attractive than the plastic blonds offered by &quot;mainstream&quot; porn.  Even of the actresses in mainstream porn, only a very small number live up to the Barbie image. Suicide girls may look different, but I don&#039;t think they are in any way objectively more average or plain-looking, on the whole.

&lt;p&gt;Furthermore, if you&#039;ve ever seen any of the videos produced by Burning Angel, you know that they incorporate every cliche and convention of current mainstream porn, only they do it with girls that have tattoos and a punk rock soundtrack.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there is a serious flaw lurking in this argument. Where is all this free amateur porn that is supposedly crippling the professional porn studios? The one website that is actually mentioned in the NYT article is a pay-per-minute site that has tons of professionally produced content. The difference is in the method of distribution, not the content.</p>
<p>The popularity of Burning Angel and Suicide Girls (mentioned in your post from last week) doesn&#8217;t seem to me to suggest a preference for more realistic porn. Many people find the girls on those sits to be genuinely more attractive than the plastic blonds offered by &#8220;mainstream&#8221; porn.  Even of the actresses in mainstream porn, only a very small number live up to the Barbie image. Suicide girls may look different, but I don&#8217;t think they are in any way objectively more average or plain-looking, on the whole.</p>
<p>Furthermore, if you&#8217;ve ever seen any of the videos produced by Burning Angel, you know that they incorporate every cliche and convention of current mainstream porn, only they do it with girls that have tattoos and a punk rock soundtrack.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin B. O'Reilly</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2007/06/04/the-market-for-penetration/comment-page-1/#comment-2471</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin B. O'Reilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 03:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>razib appears to actually know something about the subject. Amateur is just one niche of many, many. What the Internet has really done, by lowering the barriers to entry, is to make it even easier to meet the market demand for the multitude of kinks out there.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>razib appears to actually know something about the subject. Amateur is just one niche of many, many. What the Internet has really done, by lowering the barriers to entry, is to make it even easier to meet the market demand for the multitude of kinks out there.</p>
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		<title>By: razib</title>
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		<dc:creator>razib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 01:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is just recapitulating the transition from the dominance of porn-film to porn-video in the 1980s.  the rise of pro-am precedes the internet, the internet just amplified the effect. the internet has also pushed print &amp; video porn to be far more raunchy very quickly. e.g., in the early 2000s there was a niche &quot;ass-to-mouth&quot; line of videos, but that was discontinued with the practice spread to porn in general.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is just recapitulating the transition from the dominance of porn-film to porn-video in the 1980s.  the rise of pro-am precedes the internet, the internet just amplified the effect. the internet has also pushed print &#038; video porn to be far more raunchy very quickly. e.g., in the early 2000s there was a niche &#8220;ass-to-mouth&#8221; line of videos, but that was discontinued with the practice spread to porn in general.</p>
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