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	<title>Comments on: El Viaje Misterioso de Nuestro Andrew</title>
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	<description>Just another geek in the geek kingdom</description>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2007/04/11/el-viaje-misterioso-de-nuestro-andrew/comment-page-1/#comment-2016</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 21:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So God is a 3 letter word meaning &quot;I don&#039;t know how it works&quot;?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So God is a 3 letter word meaning &#8220;I don&#8217;t know how it works&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Julian Sanchez</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2007/04/11/el-viaje-misterioso-de-nuestro-andrew/comment-page-1/#comment-2015</link>
		<dc:creator>Julian Sanchez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 21:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(1) Right, I mean, at a sort of general level this isn&#039;t that mysterious: What is the mind?  Everything we know suggests it&#039;s &quot;epiphenomenal to the neural substrate.&quot;  The mysterious part is how and why--the set of puzzles that make up so much of contemporary philosophy of mind.

(2) I meant to pick out one type of question theists think their faith helps to answer: How should I live? What meaning, if any, does my life have?  And (less pressing for the theist, more so for us) supposing there isn&#039;t one built into the universe, and that it&#039;s up to each of us to create such meaning, are there more or less defensible processes for doing so, or is it just &quot;whatever you pick&quot;?      Depending on what you meant by &quot;teleological agency&quot; in this context: I didn&#039;t mean to suppose that the answer could only be provided by some transcendent &quot;purposiveness&quot; built into the universe, nor did I mean to suppose any kind of radical free will in humans.  I can probably elaborate if it seems as though either of those things should be required to make the question intelligible.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(1) Right, I mean, at a sort of general level this isn&#8217;t that mysterious: What is the mind?  Everything we know suggests it&#8217;s &#8220;epiphenomenal to the neural substrate.&#8221;  The mysterious part is how and why&#8211;the set of puzzles that make up so much of contemporary philosophy of mind.</p>
<p>(2) I meant to pick out one type of question theists think their faith helps to answer: How should I live? What meaning, if any, does my life have?  And (less pressing for the theist, more so for us) supposing there isn&#8217;t one built into the universe, and that it&#8217;s up to each of us to create such meaning, are there more or less defensible processes for doing so, or is it just &#8220;whatever you pick&#8221;?      Depending on what you meant by &#8220;teleological agency&#8221; in this context: I didn&#8217;t mean to suppose that the answer could only be provided by some transcendent &#8220;purposiveness&#8221; built into the universe, nor did I mean to suppose any kind of radical free will in humans.  I can probably elaborate if it seems as though either of those things should be required to make the question intelligible.</p>
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		<title>By: empiricus</title>
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		<dc:creator>empiricus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 20:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The last paragraph is not bad at all for an impressionistic manifesto (it got props from Ross Douthat!); the penultimate sentence in particular expressly poetically and pithily, and less condescendingly than I usually manage, my view of one of the key psychodynamic sources of theism.  I may borrow bits of the idea in my dealings with theists.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But I have to ask about a couple of your elements, which seem inconsistent with your gestalt as I pick it up (apologies in advance for misgrokking you):&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;1) Do you really think it&#039;s a Mystery that consciousness, qualia (if any), etc. are epiphenomenal to the neural substrate?  Why is it a mystery (in comparison to say abiogenesis, where I agree there are at least presently some pretty wide gaps between for example iron-sulfur world/lipid bilayer and RNA World)?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;2) &quot;[W]hether I have any special purpose in life&quot; the way you seem to be using it pretty much presupposes teleological agency [in order to be a meaningful question], no?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last paragraph is not bad at all for an impressionistic manifesto (it got props from Ross Douthat!); the penultimate sentence in particular expressly poetically and pithily, and less condescendingly than I usually manage, my view of one of the key psychodynamic sources of theism.  I may borrow bits of the idea in my dealings with theists.</p>
<p>But I have to ask about a couple of your elements, which seem inconsistent with your gestalt as I pick it up (apologies in advance for misgrokking you):</p>
<p>1) Do you really think it&#8217;s a Mystery that consciousness, qualia (if any), etc. are epiphenomenal to the neural substrate?  Why is it a mystery (in comparison to say abiogenesis, where I agree there are at least presently some pretty wide gaps between for example iron-sulfur world/lipid bilayer and RNA World)?</p>
<p>2) &#8220;[W]hether I have any special purpose in life&#8221; the way you seem to be using it pretty much presupposes teleological agency [in order to be a meaningful question], no?</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2007/04/11/el-viaje-misterioso-de-nuestro-andrew/comment-page-1/#comment-2013</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 15:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;To proselytize for the absence of a belief, which most atheists feel no particular obligation to do, probably demands a measure of active repugnance for religion. And as John Bolton has taught us, contempt for one&#039;s interlocutors is an unhelpful trait in an ambassador.&quot;

Surely, like Christians, we can hate the sin and love the sinner.

&quot;I don&#039;t know...why there is Something rather than Nothing...&quot;

I think Simon Blackburn puts it best when he says that not &quot;every apparently well-formed sentence introduces a proposition, or issue, about which questions of truth and falsity arise.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;To proselytize for the absence of a belief, which most atheists feel no particular obligation to do, probably demands a measure of active repugnance for religion. And as John Bolton has taught us, contempt for one&#8217;s interlocutors is an unhelpful trait in an ambassador.&#8221;</p>
<p>Surely, like Christians, we can hate the sin and love the sinner.</p>
<p>&#8220;I don&#8217;t know&#8230;why there is Something rather than Nothing&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I think Simon Blackburn puts it best when he says that not &#8220;every apparently well-formed sentence introduces a proposition, or issue, about which questions of truth and falsity arise.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Julian Sanchez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julian Sanchez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 20:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>D&#039;oh!  Fixed.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D&#8217;oh!  Fixed.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Mackenzie</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2007/04/11/el-viaje-misterioso-de-nuestro-andrew/comment-page-1/#comment-2011</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Mackenzie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 17:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh,  Robert Novak?  That was Michael.  While it&#039;s easy to confuse the two, the giveaway was the essay was about God, not Lloth.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh,  Robert Novak?  That was Michael.  While it&#8217;s easy to confuse the two, the giveaway was the essay was about God, not Lloth.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Hovsep</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2007/04/11/el-viaje-misterioso-de-nuestro-andrew/comment-page-1/#comment-2010</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Hovsep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well put.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well put.</p>
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