Comments on: Dammit… http://www.juliansanchez.com/2007/02/06/dammit/ Just another geek in the geek kingdom Fri, 30 Jul 2010 06:46:49 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Cam http://www.juliansanchez.com/2007/02/06/dammit/comment-page-1/#comment-1612 Cam Wed, 07 Feb 2007 18:14:28 +0000 http://juliansanchez.com/?p=1591#comment-1612 For further clarification: my personal belief is that while rappers or rap groups whose music is decidedly political/focused on messages of raised consciousness/community action, etc. are probably as talented as mainstream or hardcore rappers, talking exclusively about those issues in their music gives hip-hop fans the feeling that they're listening to a PSA. It's just one step away from rapping about how cool doing homework is or how awesome chores can be. For further clarification: my personal belief is that while rappers or rap groups whose music is decidedly political/focused on messages of raised consciousness/community action, etc. are probably as talented as mainstream or hardcore rappers, talking exclusively about those issues in their music gives hip-hop fans the feeling that they’re listening to a PSA. It’s just one step away from rapping about how cool doing homework is or how awesome chores can be.

]]> By: DRR http://www.juliansanchez.com/2007/02/06/dammit/comment-page-1/#comment-1611 DRR Wed, 07 Feb 2007 08:35:29 +0000 http://juliansanchez.com/?p=1591#comment-1611 <i> most of the rap that white America ends up liking also ends up sucking </i> Most of the rap white America listens to is the same stuff black america listens to. Neither group are particularly fond of The Coup or Digable Planets. most of the rap that white America ends up liking also ends up sucking

Most of the rap white America listens to is the same stuff black america listens to. Neither group are particularly fond of The Coup or Digable Planets.

]]> By: Barry http://www.juliansanchez.com/2007/02/06/dammit/comment-page-1/#comment-1610 Barry Tue, 06 Feb 2007 21:02:29 +0000 http://juliansanchez.com/?p=1591#comment-1610 They're striving to heighten the contradictions. The worse things get, the better they are. They’re striving to heighten the contradictions. The worse things get, the better they are.

]]> By: Cam http://www.juliansanchez.com/2007/02/06/dammit/comment-page-1/#comment-1609 Cam Tue, 06 Feb 2007 18:24:50 +0000 http://juliansanchez.com/?p=1591#comment-1609 "The funny thing is, the type of rappers white suburbanites listen to tend to almost be liberal and conservative parodies of libertarianism: an obsession with ownership and all things material, lots of extra-marital sex, a fetishization of guns and violence and so on." This goes for black urbanites as well. Most blacks who are fans of hip-hop tend not to listen to The Coup, Dead Prez (with some exception here), or any rapper/rap group who's art is largely a vehicle for expression of POLITICAL opinions. As a rule of thumb, just follow what the hip-hop media is discussing, analyizing, reviewing, etc to see get a feel for the zeitgeist. Aside from the print outlets with a major presence - the XXL's or The Source's - even hip-hop blogs don't really follow rap that's progressive or political. Mos Def gets a little love, as do other artists with more organic styles (Sean Price/Ghostface Killa), but generally speaking it's all G-Unit and Dipset. Look at nahright.com for evidence. This is widely regarded by industry insiders as one of the best blogs covering hip-hop today. You'll see he's mostly talking about rap that's got "an obsession with ownership and all things material, lots of extra-marital sex, a fetishization of guns and violence." Know why? Because that's the rap that's really, really good. “The funny thing is, the type of rappers white suburbanites listen to tend to almost be liberal and conservative parodies of libertarianism: an obsession with ownership and all things material, lots of extra-marital sex, a fetishization of guns and violence and so on.”

This goes for black urbanites as well. Most blacks who are fans of hip-hop tend not to listen to The Coup, Dead Prez (with some exception here), or any rapper/rap group who’s art is largely a vehicle for expression of POLITICAL opinions.

As a rule of thumb, just follow what the hip-hop media is discussing, analyizing, reviewing, etc to see get a feel for the zeitgeist. Aside from the print outlets with a major presence – the XXL’s or The Source’s – even hip-hop blogs don’t really follow rap that’s progressive or political. Mos Def gets a little love, as do other artists with more organic styles (Sean Price/Ghostface Killa), but generally speaking it’s all G-Unit and Dipset.

Look at nahright.com for evidence. This is widely regarded by industry insiders as one of the best blogs covering hip-hop today. You’ll see he’s mostly talking about rap that’s got “an obsession with ownership and all things material, lots of extra-marital sex, a fetishization of guns and violence.”

Know why? Because that’s the rap that’s really, really good.

]]> By: Reality Man http://www.juliansanchez.com/2007/02/06/dammit/comment-page-1/#comment-1608 Reality Man Tue, 06 Feb 2007 08:37:11 +0000 http://juliansanchez.com/?p=1591#comment-1608 Hell yes. Just look at Dead Prez. The funny thing is, the type of rappers white suburbanites listen to tend to almost be liberal and conservative parodies of libertarianism: an obsession with ownership and all things material, lots of extra-marital sex, a fetishization of guns and violence and so on. The problem is, most of the rap that white America ends up liking also ends up sucking. Hell yes. Just look at Dead Prez.

The funny thing is, the type of rappers white suburbanites listen to tend to almost be liberal and conservative parodies of libertarianism: an obsession with ownership and all things material, lots of extra-marital sex, a fetishization of guns and violence and so on. The problem is, most of the rap that white America ends up liking also ends up sucking.

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