Comments on: Stalking the Wild Libertarian http://www.juliansanchez.com/2007/01/01/stalking-the-wild-libertarian/ Just another geek in the geek kingdom Thu, 09 Feb 2012 05:38:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2 By: mr. patchouli http://www.juliansanchez.com/2007/01/01/stalking-the-wild-libertarian/comment-page-1/#comment-1448 mr. patchouli Tue, 09 Jan 2007 01:56:29 +0000 http://juliansanchez.com/?p=1499#comment-1448 Julian's stance is correct imho, Neil highlights the difference between leftish-liberals and libertarians on positive discrimination. How equal are we, now, <i>really</i>? Common libertarian failing is to be excessively ahistorical and abstract. More convoluted views arise from understanding this failing. Ann's right to draw attention to this. Turn down the heat, Ann and Ron need a cold shower, might get on better than over cocktails, er, wine, er.. Julian’s stance is correct imho, Neil highlights the difference between leftish-liberals and libertarians on positive discrimination. How equal are we, now, really?

Common libertarian failing is to be excessively ahistorical and abstract. More convoluted views arise from understanding this failing. Ann’s right to draw attention to this.

Turn down the heat, Ann and Ron need a cold shower, might get on better than over cocktails, er, wine, er..

]]> By: Steve Sailer http://www.juliansanchez.com/2007/01/01/stalking-the-wild-libertarian/comment-page-1/#comment-1447 Steve Sailer Thu, 04 Jan 2007 08:31:10 +0000 http://juliansanchez.com/?p=1499#comment-1447 It's 1692 all over again and the new witches are anybody who can be accused of racism. It’s 1692 all over again and the new witches are anybody who can be accused of racism.

]]> By: Neil the Ethical Werewolf http://www.juliansanchez.com/2007/01/01/stalking-the-wild-libertarian/comment-page-1/#comment-1446 Neil the Ethical Werewolf Wed, 03 Jan 2007 20:24:44 +0000 http://juliansanchez.com/?p=1499#comment-1446 <i>Widespread and systematic discrimination flowing from a history of state-enforced racism is unacceptable and undermines the kind of background social equality that's necessary for a liberal society to function, but when we reach the point where this would not be the result of permitting the odd bigot to run his segregated business, then the balance of considerations tips in favor of allowing this, repugnant as we may find it.</i> I agree! And this is all well and good. But do you think we're there yet? Because when two identical resumes, one with a stereotypically black name like Jamal, and another with a most-likely-white name like Greg, can get statistically significant differences in the number of callbacks they get, we're not yet in 'the odd bigot' territory yet. Widespread and systematic discrimination flowing from a history of state-enforced racism is unacceptable and undermines the kind of background social equality that’s necessary for a liberal society to function, but when we reach the point where this would not be the result of permitting the odd bigot to run his segregated business, then the balance of considerations tips in favor of allowing this, repugnant as we may find it.

I agree! And this is all well and good. But do you think we’re there yet? Because when two identical resumes, one with a stereotypically black name like Jamal, and another with a most-likely-white name like Greg, can get statistically significant differences in the number of callbacks they get, we’re not yet in ‘the odd bigot’ territory yet.

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