Comments on: When Is Hate Speech Funny? http://www.juliansanchez.com/2006/06/14/when-is-hate-speech-funny/ Just another geek in the geek kingdom Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:30:34 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Anono http://www.juliansanchez.com/2006/06/14/when-is-hate-speech-funny/comment-page-1/#comment-1077 Anono Thu, 06 Jul 2006 16:21:57 +0000 http://juliansanchez.com/?p=1242#comment-1077 There's a big difference between close friends joking around with seemingly-offensive language, and the commenter that you quote (who was not joking around with Coulter or Malkin). There’s a big difference between close friends joking around with seemingly-offensive language, and the commenter that you quote (who was not joking around with Coulter or Malkin).

]]> By: Will Wilkinson http://www.juliansanchez.com/2006/06/14/when-is-hate-speech-funny/comment-page-1/#comment-1076 Will Wilkinson Sat, 17 Jun 2006 21:10:14 +0000 http://juliansanchez.com/?p=1242#comment-1076 I would say something vile with respect to your ethnicity, as a show of friendship, naturally, but according to The Columbia Guide to Standard American English "there appears to be no ethnic slur or other pejorative sense attached to Spaniard, as has sometimes been alleged." So I'm stumped, you mouthbreathing cockgagger. I would say something vile with respect to your ethnicity, as a show of friendship, naturally, but according to The Columbia Guide to Standard American English “there appears to be no ethnic slur or other pejorative sense attached to Spaniard, as has sometimes been alleged.” So I’m stumped, you mouthbreathing cockgagger.

]]> By: James http://www.juliansanchez.com/2006/06/14/when-is-hate-speech-funny/comment-page-1/#comment-1075 James Fri, 16 Jun 2006 01:14:52 +0000 http://juliansanchez.com/?p=1242#comment-1075 Just a few days ago, there was a posting on Firedoglake directed at Anna Marie Cox that left me pretty uncomfortable. The language that was used was that of sexual degradation and humiliation (the title was "Time Magazine Launches a Bukkake Festival"), and I just couldn't see any way that it wasn't tapping into deep misogeny. The closest thing to a plausible justification I could find (implausible ones include "she deserved it" and "she was asking for it") was a friend's suggestion that it was similar to blacks being allowed to call each other n-----, with the understanding that said language is still off limits to whites. But whatever the merits of either, they still seem pretty different to me. I've noticed that something similar seems to be the case with Paris Hilton. I recently wrote an essay entitled "Why I like Paris Hilton" in which I observed that, unlike practically every other member of her social class, she actually has had jobs, earned money, and (important to me, anyway) paid Social Security taxes. Yet despising her seems to be one thing that progressives and social conservatives agree on. The only thing that I can think of that explains it all is that misogeny, racism, and homophobia run pretty deep, and if the social inhibitions that prevent its expression are somehow switched off in a given situation, it just rushes to the surface like some sort of Freudian geyser. Even so, I'd think that civilized people should at least pay attention to it -- as a warning, if nothing else. Just a few days ago, there was a posting on Firedoglake directed at Anna Marie Cox that left me pretty uncomfortable. The language that was used was that of sexual degradation and humiliation (the title was “Time Magazine Launches a Bukkake Festival”), and I just couldn’t see any way that it wasn’t tapping into deep misogeny. The closest thing to a plausible justification I could find (implausible ones include “she deserved it” and “she was asking for it”) was a friend’s suggestion that it was similar to blacks being allowed to call each other n—–, with the understanding that said language is still off limits to whites. But whatever the merits of either, they still seem pretty different to me.

I’ve noticed that something similar seems to be the case with Paris Hilton. I recently wrote an essay entitled “Why I like Paris Hilton” in which I observed that, unlike practically every other member of her social class, she actually has had jobs, earned money, and (important to me, anyway) paid Social Security taxes. Yet despising her seems to be one thing that progressives and social conservatives agree on.

The only thing that I can think of that explains it all is that misogeny, racism, and homophobia run pretty deep, and if the social inhibitions that prevent its expression are somehow switched off in a given situation, it just rushes to the surface like some sort of Freudian geyser. Even so, I’d think that civilized people should at least pay attention to it — as a warning, if nothing else.

]]> By: Lane http://www.juliansanchez.com/2006/06/14/when-is-hate-speech-funny/comment-page-1/#comment-1074 Lane Thu, 15 Jun 2006 14:33:37 +0000 http://juliansanchez.com/?p=1242#comment-1074 Isn't this what <em>The Aristocrats</em> was all about? Isn’t this what The Aristocrats was all about?

]]> By: Barry http://www.juliansanchez.com/2006/06/14/when-is-hate-speech-funny/comment-page-1/#comment-1073 Barry Wed, 14 Jun 2006 20:48:43 +0000 http://juliansanchez.com/?p=1242#comment-1073 I think that it comes from a combination of some genuine prejudice, and a lot of resentment. Michelle Malkin serves as the Asian who justifies discrimination and repression of non-"whites". Coulter is the woman who gets away with lies and evil which no liberal could. I'm not sure what the liberal equivalent of Goldstein would be, but he'd probably be the first blogger put into Gitmo. I think that it comes from a combination of some genuine prejudice, and a lot of resentment. Michelle Malkin serves as the Asian who justifies discrimination and repression of non-”whites”. Coulter is the woman who gets away with lies and evil which no liberal could. I’m not sure what the liberal equivalent of Goldstein would be, but he’d probably be the first blogger put into Gitmo.

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