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		<title>By: dhex</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2005/04/08/you-got-memed/comment-page-1/#comment-318</link>
		<dc:creator>dhex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>outside of the vocalist&#039;s styling on the first album, i really don&#039;t see the joy division connection. i loves me some JD, even if i lament new order...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>outside of the vocalist&#8217;s styling on the first album, i really don&#8217;t see the joy division connection. i loves me some JD, even if i lament new order&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Deamer</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2005/04/08/you-got-memed/comment-page-1/#comment-317</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Deamer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2005 00:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Interpol

I&#039;d like to propose some middle way between the hyperbolic pre and post-Interpol worlds way of thinking and the Julian&#039;s dismissal of them.

Initially, my way of thinking was closer to Julian&#039;s. I was disgusted that anyone would take the   Joy Division&#039;s look and sound and try to reduce to a mere style and shtick. Whether you liked Joy Division or not, their music and lives - especially Ian Curtis&#039;s - were manifestly not merely a style or a shtick. They were a hard-won reaction to grimy surroundings and to deep, personal sadness.

However, once I got over that initial reaction I came to grudgingly actually like Interpol for a couple of reasons: 1) Say what you will, but their music is exceedingly well made. I think there is significantly greater attention to detail and craftsmanship in their productions than in those of the million or so other bands doing stuff &quot;in the same ball park&quot;. 2) Times change. What was unaffected, hard-won experience in one generation may be reinvented as a glam-rock style in the next. That doesn&#039;t mean that the second incarnation is bad. There&#039;s a certain amount of warped genius in taking the Joy Division sound and combining it with a certain look and lifestyle to make it something totally different than was originally intended.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Interpol</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to propose some middle way between the hyperbolic pre and post-Interpol worlds way of thinking and the Julian&#8217;s dismissal of them.</p>
<p>Initially, my way of thinking was closer to Julian&#8217;s. I was disgusted that anyone would take the   Joy Division&#8217;s look and sound and try to reduce to a mere style and shtick. Whether you liked Joy Division or not, their music and lives &#8211; especially Ian Curtis&#8217;s &#8211; were manifestly not merely a style or a shtick. They were a hard-won reaction to grimy surroundings and to deep, personal sadness.</p>
<p>However, once I got over that initial reaction I came to grudgingly actually like Interpol for a couple of reasons: 1) Say what you will, but their music is exceedingly well made. I think there is significantly greater attention to detail and craftsmanship in their productions than in those of the million or so other bands doing stuff &#8220;in the same ball park&#8221;. 2) Times change. What was unaffected, hard-won experience in one generation may be reinvented as a glam-rock style in the next. That doesn&#8217;t mean that the second incarnation is bad. There&#8217;s a certain amount of warped genius in taking the Joy Division sound and combining it with a certain look and lifestyle to make it something totally different than was originally intended.</p>
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		<title>By: Kriston Capps</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2005/04/08/you-got-memed/comment-page-1/#comment-316</link>
		<dc:creator>Kriston Capps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A ha, memed in the public square! Okay, give me a minuteÃ¢â?¬â?there&#039;s so much about my peer group I disdain.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A ha, memed in the public square! Okay, give me a minuteÃ¢â?¬â?there&#8217;s so much about my peer group I disdain.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Carney</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2005/04/08/you-got-memed/comment-page-1/#comment-315</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Carney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>_Old Man and the Sea_ was fabulous. His short stories can be great. But yeah, the hype about _Farewell to Arms_, etc., is beyond me.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>_Old Man and the Sea_ was fabulous. His short stories can be great. But yeah, the hype about _Farewell to Arms_, etc., is beyond me.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan T. Freeman</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2005/04/08/you-got-memed/comment-page-1/#comment-314</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan T. Freeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I&#039;ll be surprised if anyone remembers who these guys were in 5 years.&quot;

I don&#039;t remember who these guys are right now.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I&#8217;ll be surprised if anyone remembers who these guys were in 5 years.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t remember who these guys are right now.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Goard</title>
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		<dc:creator>J. Goard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not an admirer of his longer form. (I read the probably conventional FWTBT, AFTA, TOMATS -- funny acronyms, BTW).  I do respect &quot;The Snows of Kilimanjaro&quot;, however, and could never quite echo Julian&#039;s dismissal having stumbled across his (especially short) existentialist masterpiece, &quot;A Clean, Well-lighted Place&quot;.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not an admirer of his longer form. (I read the probably conventional FWTBT, AFTA, TOMATS &#8212; funny acronyms, BTW).  I do respect &#8220;The Snows of Kilimanjaro&#8221;, however, and could never quite echo Julian&#8217;s dismissal having stumbled across his (especially short) existentialist masterpiece, &#8220;A Clean, Well-lighted Place&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Scheule</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Scheule</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I once asked an English Professor if there was Hemingway she recommended, to which she replied, &quot;I can&#039;t help you: I loathe Hemingway.&quot;

But another professor I had was very fond of his short stories.  To each his own.  Some people actually find female comedians funny, too.

I read &quot;Farewell to Arms&quot; but didn&#039;t much care for it--&quot;For Whom the Bell Tolls&quot; on the other hand, struck me as a very good book.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I once asked an English Professor if there was Hemingway she recommended, to which she replied, &#8220;I can&#8217;t help you: I loathe Hemingway.&#8221;</p>
<p>But another professor I had was very fond of his short stories.  To each his own.  Some people actually find female comedians funny, too.</p>
<p>I read &#8220;Farewell to Arms&#8221; but didn&#8217;t much care for it&#8211;&#8221;For Whom the Bell Tolls&#8221; on the other hand, struck me as a very good book.</p>
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		<title>By: fnook</title>
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		<dc:creator>fnook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Apr 2005 04:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interpol is, and will always be, passe.   Listen to their live performance on KEXP.  All style no substance.  But that&#039;s not to say I don&#039;t like hearing their songs now and again.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interpol is, and will always be, passe.   Listen to their live performance on KEXP.  All style no substance.  But that&#8217;s not to say I don&#8217;t like hearing their songs now and again.</p>
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		<title>By: Julian Sanchez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julian Sanchez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Apr 2005 21:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I think we should consider the music world pre-Interpol and post-Interpol&quot;

That&#039;s a little much.  I&#039;ll be surprised if anyone remembers who these guys were in 5 years.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I think we should consider the music world pre-Interpol and post-Interpol&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a little much.  I&#8217;ll be surprised if anyone remembers who these guys were in 5 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Gabriel Mihalache</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2005/04/08/you-got-memed/comment-page-1/#comment-309</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabriel Mihalache</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Apr 2005 10:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interpol started a trend. I think we should consider the music world pre-Interpol and post-Interpol and I think we&#039;ll see sort of a &quot;return to elegance&quot;, both in sound and video imagery. There&#039;s also an element of understated drama in their performances and posturing.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interpol started a trend. I think we should consider the music world pre-Interpol and post-Interpol and I think we&#8217;ll see sort of a &#8220;return to elegance&#8221;, both in sound and video imagery. There&#8217;s also an element of understated drama in their performances and posturing.</p>
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