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	<description>Just another geek in the geek kingdom</description>
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		<title>By: Julian Sanchez</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2005/03/22/house-style/comment-page-1/#comment-210</link>
		<dc:creator>Julian Sanchez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Mar 2005 18:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;scare quotes&quot; is a term of art; it doesn&#039;t mean the quotes are actually supposed to scare anyone. And as David notes, whether marriage in some broader religious context has a &quot;natural essence&quot; is another point altogether. Civil marriage is a specific legal relationship constituted by a set of legal rights and obligations; there&#039;s no question that a gay couple is capable of being in *that* kind of relationship, whether or not they can be &quot;married&quot; in some broader, theologically charged sense.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;scare quotes&#8221; is a term of art; it doesn&#8217;t mean the quotes are actually supposed to scare anyone. And as David notes, whether marriage in some broader religious context has a &#8220;natural essence&#8221; is another point altogether. Civil marriage is a specific legal relationship constituted by a set of legal rights and obligations; there&#8217;s no question that a gay couple is capable of being in *that* kind of relationship, whether or not they can be &#8220;married&#8221; in some broader, theologically charged sense.</p>
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		<title>By: David T</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2005/03/22/house-style/comment-page-1/#comment-209</link>
		<dc:creator>David T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Mar 2005 07:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But from others&#039; perspective, &#039;marriage&#039; is, by natural essence, the joining of two unlike persons -- man and woman.&quot;

The point is, though, that marriage is a legal institution.  A man and a woman may be &quot;joined&quot; but if they are not legally married, they are not married--period.  Converesely, in Massachusetts, whether wisely or unwisely, courts have ruled that persons of the same sex can get married.  Unless and until that decision is overturned by a federal or state constitutional amendment (or by the court overruling itself) persons of the same sex in Massachussetts may marry--without quotation amrks.  Whatever you or I or anyone else think of &quot;natural essence&quot; is irrelevant--it is what the law thinks that counts.

It is perfectly proper to describe marriage ceremonies *in states where same-sex marriage is not allowed by law* as &quot;weddings&quot; or &quot;marriage&quot; ceremonies--in quotes.  Where people are legally married, however, such quotes are inappropriate.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But from others&#8217; perspective, &#8216;marriage&#8217; is, by natural essence, the joining of two unlike persons &#8212; man and woman.&#8221;</p>
<p>The point is, though, that marriage is a legal institution.  A man and a woman may be &#8220;joined&#8221; but if they are not legally married, they are not married&#8211;period.  Converesely, in Massachusetts, whether wisely or unwisely, courts have ruled that persons of the same sex can get married.  Unless and until that decision is overturned by a federal or state constitutional amendment (or by the court overruling itself) persons of the same sex in Massachussetts may marry&#8211;without quotation amrks.  Whatever you or I or anyone else think of &#8220;natural essence&#8221; is irrelevant&#8211;it is what the law thinks that counts.</p>
<p>It is perfectly proper to describe marriage ceremonies *in states where same-sex marriage is not allowed by law* as &#8220;weddings&#8221; or &#8220;marriage&#8221; ceremonies&#8211;in quotes.  Where people are legally married, however, such quotes are inappropriate.</p>
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		<title>By: Avedon</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2005/03/22/house-style/comment-page-1/#comment-208</link>
		<dc:creator>Avedon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ajmac, you make marriage sound awfully exciting.  But I gotta tell ya, most of the time sex has nothing to do with it as all.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ajmac, you make marriage sound awfully exciting.  But I gotta tell ya, most of the time sex has nothing to do with it as all.</p>
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		<title>By: ajmac</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2005/03/22/house-style/comment-page-1/#comment-207</link>
		<dc:creator>ajmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate gratuitous quotation marks.  Pet peeve of mine, actually.  I always wonder, when I see the sticker on the gas station pumps that reads, &quot;Drive-offs will be prosecuted,&quot; all in quotation marks, who said it and why the station owner refrains from endorsing the sentiment as a promise.

That said, I am sure the Wash Times does not use the quotation marks to scare anyone.  For many of us, the phrase &quot;gay marriage&quot; begs the question.  I understand that some perceive redefining marriage to include homosexual couples as a civil rights issue.  But from others&#039; perspective, &quot;marriage&quot; is, by natural essence, the joining of two unlike persons -- man and woman.

If we are prepared to say that it is ontologically possible for a homosexual couple to be married, then we must be prepared to say that gender doesn&#039;t matter; one or the other gender (take your pick) is not represented in a homosexual union.  I, for one, am not prepared to say that.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate gratuitous quotation marks.  Pet peeve of mine, actually.  I always wonder, when I see the sticker on the gas station pumps that reads, &#8220;Drive-offs will be prosecuted,&#8221; all in quotation marks, who said it and why the station owner refrains from endorsing the sentiment as a promise.</p>
<p>That said, I am sure the Wash Times does not use the quotation marks to scare anyone.  For many of us, the phrase &#8220;gay marriage&#8221; begs the question.  I understand that some perceive redefining marriage to include homosexual couples as a civil rights issue.  But from others&#8217; perspective, &#8220;marriage&#8221; is, by natural essence, the joining of two unlike persons &#8212; man and woman.</p>
<p>If we are prepared to say that it is ontologically possible for a homosexual couple to be married, then we must be prepared to say that gender doesn&#8217;t matter; one or the other gender (take your pick) is not represented in a homosexual union.  I, for one, am not prepared to say that.</p>
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		<title>By: Kriston Capps</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2005/03/22/house-style/comment-page-1/#comment-206</link>
		<dc:creator>Kriston Capps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Don&#039;t blame the reporters for a decision that&#039;s out of their hands.&lt;/i&gt;

No one&#039;s making them &quot;work&quot; there.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Don&#8217;t blame the reporters for a decision that&#8217;s out of their hands.</i></p>
<p>No one&#8217;s making them &#8220;work&#8221; there.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Freeman</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2005/03/22/house-style/comment-page-1/#comment-205</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan Freeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe I do &quot;eat my own dandruff.&quot;  Maybe I do &quot;pop my whiteheads with a compass I used in high school.&quot;  Maybe I am NOT your &quot;typical buff-bodied, blow-dried department-store-mannequin TV newsperson&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I do &#8220;eat my own dandruff.&#8221;  Maybe I do &#8220;pop my whiteheads with a compass I used in high school.&#8221;  Maybe I am NOT your &#8220;typical buff-bodied, blow-dried department-store-mannequin TV newsperson&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Hawkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the Times &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; owned by a guy who &quot;thinks he&#039;s God&quot;...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the Times <i>is</i> owned by a guy who &#8220;thinks he&#8217;s God&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2005/03/22/house-style/comment-page-1/#comment-203</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The perpetually &quot;offended&quot; Tony &quot;Blankley&quot; had better &quot;take notice&quot;. But he won&#039;t, because he&#039;s &quot;sort of a buffoon.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The perpetually &#8220;offended&#8221; Tony &#8220;Blankley&#8221; had better &#8220;take notice&#8221;. But he won&#8217;t, because he&#8217;s &#8220;sort of a buffoon.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin B. O'Reilly</title>
		<link>http://www.juliansanchez.com/2005/03/22/house-style/comment-page-1/#comment-202</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin B. O'Reilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t blame the reporters for a decision that&#039;s out of their hands.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t blame the reporters for a decision that&#8217;s out of their hands.</p>
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